2011 Game Thread: Knicks @ Mavericks
March 10th, 2011 by Mike Kurylo | @KnickerBlogger | Comments | Permalink |
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another big test tonight, a lot to ask from Melo/Amare after each played big minutes last night. go NY, go NY, go!
It’s a whole lot to ask for the Knicks to win this one, although the Mavs did play last night also. I would say if we do manage to pull this one out, it would be our most significant victory this season.
Lately, I can’t wait for these games to get started. Hate when they move west…later games…
I think D’Antoni teams are some of the most fit in the league.
I think the Knicks have a good record on the back end of the back to back games.
Mavs lost a close one and then their coach called them soft. They are going to be pumped to play tonight.
Interestingly, the Knicks kicked their asses in Dallas last year.
I’m setup for a full night of NBA…Lakers and Cryami, Knicks and Mavs, Knuggets and Suns.
Go NY Go!
Bumping the game to 8:30 pm, Dallas-time, is a pain in the ass. This wait will be excruciating.
I wish Dallas wasn’t coming off a game last night. This game will be good test for the knicks, and decided by who will be able to maintain intensity. I think the knicks let up a little late in the game last night while Memphis just kept coming. If the Knicks can learn to keep their intensity throughout the game, and from game to game, they can beat anybody. Winning this game against the Mavs would be a statement.
Is Gallo back tonight for the Nuggets?
Yeah, it’d be a big win.
Gallo is still out tonight.
I wonder if we’ll see Brewer tonight? Maybe checking Derrick Brown?
Same here. Got a couple of cold ones ready. Can’t wait to see Miami have another breakdown and the Knicks kick some ass.
Wow, lots of Heat fans paint themselves red, huh?…. Oh wait, those are seats.
@12,@13 nice!
MSG just had a replay of the Knicks/Heat game with the LJ/Mourning fight. Man, looking back at it now, it just seems so childish and pathetic. At the time, I was totally into it. You know, sort of like, “screw you, Miami!” but now it just looks so sad.
It was interesting to see Chris Childs literally drag Jeff Van Gundy out from under the fracas.
Hey, give those fans a break, they’ll be in their seats by halftime!
So what’s going on with the home darks anyway? Are we moving to an NFL format, where the home teams pick the jersey color?
It’s just the non-white throwbacks/”Noche Latino” unis being used by the home team. I’m personally geeking over the re-design/ditching the black for next season
Just thinking how dumb it was that Miami went after Bosh, or put him on the same level as Wade and LeBron. Not saying Bosh ain’t a good player, but his elevation in status is so unnecessary.
At the same time, boy, I am so glad we have Amare. Not sure how serious the Knicks were in going after Bosh, but can’t imagine Bosh being nearly as dynamic of a player or leader as Amare.
Other than the Lakers, alternate unis/throwbacks tend to be dark, and those are made to be bought by the fans and usually most of them are home. The “Noche Latina” ones, like tonight, I have no idea how they decide that one.
Of the “Noche Latina” sets I’ve seen, the only one that makes sense is the “Nueva York”. Adding Los\El in front of a team name does NOT make it spanish.
It’s been a long time coming.
Speaking of uniforms, I stumbled across this today: http://bit.ly/if5hLO
I know the NBA has had its fair share if hideous unis, but this has to be the worst ever, right?
I’m probably in the minority in that I like the black, but I prefer the wider stripes and darker blue
Yes, the early Raptors were powerful-ugly. But the cartoon dinosaur almost pushes it to “so awful it’s good” category. I shudder more at these…
http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/6/240/full/cxn2wgcl8onwair6oo25ezrmy.gif
Bad link. Unless there was a team called the Forbidden.
The Hornets Mardi Gras unis are vomit inducing also, but considering the first time I actually went to La. for Mardi Gras that might be apropriate ;)
Best miami rip of the month — and you’ve got a lot of competition
Big test. I agree that a win tonight would be the biggest win of the season.
Really looking forward to tonight’s game. Bummed about my Johnies, but put on some MSG recorded Allman Bros. at the Beacon. It gave me a big lift. I don’t mean to shift topics, but the Brothers and the Knicks are such a great combination for me. It really brings me back to high school, circa 1972-74. If any of you’all are fans of Country music or Southern Rock, they’re a real treat. They just played the beautiful masterpiece Melissa. Anyway, let’s rock tonight, Go Knicks, statement game either way.
Try this’n: http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/c/0/0/1a/5/AAAADNUCoeAAAAAAABpa5Q.jpg?v=1229359284000
Yeah those are really bad. I don’t know what’s more annoying though: the off-centered-ness of the Kings jerseys, or the completely unnecessary silver skid marks / lightning bolts running down the old Raptors unis.
Anyone see Mike Lupica’s article today? “I have said this before: As great as LeBron is, he might be a smaller version of Wilt Chamberlain. And might not even win the two NBA titles that Wilt did, even across all the years when he was the greatest basketball talent in the world.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2011/03/10/2011-03-10_bet_on_the_knicks__with_carmelo_anthony_and_amare_stoudemire__to_build_champion_.html#ixzz1GFgFbEu1
I thought I remember reading right after the Melo acquisition (perhaps in Newsday) that the Knicks had contemplated changing the uni designed but decided to scrap the change and maintain the current look after all….among other reasons that jerseys currently bought in the melo frenzy wouldn’t be somewhat old/obsolete by next year…I think I read that the reason there was such a dearth in melo jerseys was because the next had delayed in making their decision to keep the current unis, at least for next season…anyone else read this? I am not so certain there really will be a change upcoming.
Refreshingly optimistic take. Perhaps overly so, but I do think he’s right in saying that Stat and Melo’s skill sets are more complimentary than Wade and LeBron’s. Or at least less alike.
All my uni-news came from this Uniwatch article — http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2011/02/01/tampa-bay-lightning-unveil-new-uniforms/
I didn’t see anything about scrapping the change – but I’d be really saddened if it was so. One would think the Melo trade would actually motivate the change — everyone who bought one this month would certainly shill out $100 to buy the new one
It’s looking like it’s going to go down to the wire again in Miami
And if history is any guide, that’s not a good thing for Miami.
I got $20 that says miami loses by 5+ points
Is the game on TNT because MSG has been showing tennis?
sick game
I find it hilarious that I’ve been watching this miami/la game for 5:00 minutes of game time and every single miami stat — rebound, assist, score — has gone to james or wade with the exception of one bosh layup.
Yes.
Kobe hit a sick shot and then Lebron with the big dunk. Wow, what a game!
yes
tnt
Thanks guys.
Officials making Miami-favoring mistakes 2 possessions in a row.
Are they really delaying the Knicks game for effing interviews????
It’s really amazing. Jeffries can’t touch the ball if anyone is within 5 ft of him.
Great D by Melo there.
Oh crap…
TDDWTDD
He’s fine Robert.
Melo!
damn, chandler has become a beast
2 on Chandler! I hope they go at him every time.
Astute play by Fields there, picking up the loose ball and taking it right at Chandler in the restricted area for his 2nd already.
6 minutes in we already have as many free throws as we did last night. At least we’re getting some calls tonight.
Worst 7 mins. of Stoudemire’s Knick career, perhaps?
Knicks looking like they are in slow motion.
god we really love to foul.
I guess Fields is out so we can play with “size”?
Stat looks awful. Forcing some bad shots there
Maybe he did get hurt worse than I thought.
depth and length
the team looks exactly how a team would on the 2nd night of a back to back on the road against playoff teams in the west.
Amare’s shoulder doesn’t look too good, hope it’s nothing serious.
Amar’e being hurt would be veddy veddy bad.
This game could be over real fast if they are not careful.
Beautiful assist from Melo.
It’s their 4th in 5 nights too. Not a legit excuse.
PG Anthony Carter
SG Roger Mason Jr
SF Bill Walker
PF Shawne Williams
C Ronny Turiaf
Please kill me
when you add Melo’s foul trouble and Amare’s injury, and Billups out, it’s a miracle we’re only 9 behind.
With Melo’s 2 fouls and Stat hurting, gonna be tough. Just gotta keep it close.
Can’t believe that was just the 1st quarter. Felt like so much longer than that..
Did they say that not only was this the 4th game in 5 nights but the 7th game in 10 nights?! That’s rough..
If this game is somehow close in the fourth quarter I will do cartwheels!
Corey Brewer doesn’t like us anymore.
So i was just wonder what people think about…oh never mind. It’s better if I dont write anything.
as simmons would say, brewer is in eff you mode right now
that’s the Brewer we cut without even giving him a chance?
nice.
Which is ridiculous, as the Knicks gladly would have kept him glued to their bench. They cut him as a favor, and he’s pissed at them for it?
And there’s no way that that T is not overturned.
The league will rescind that tech on Amar’e
Ha! Jinx, Robert. Yeah, I can’t even bring myself to be irritated by it as it was so obviously BS that it has to be overturned.
correct me if I am wrong but wasn[t that STAT’s 16th tech? he is out for game on sunday now it would seem….although it may be rescinded…that one was RIDICULOUS!
Knicks shouldve kept Corey Brewer, he of the .017 WS/48 for his career. Baller.
yeah, officiating this year is really sucking all across the board
This is getting kind of bad, someone needs to give them a spark
Probably not the best time to be trading baskets.
this is ridiculous — every time we get a stop we let them get an easy rebound. Alternatively, we just commit a dumb foul.
This is just a total domination in every facet of the game….
The rebounds are weird – I’m used to the Knicks getting beaten to rebounds, but here, it is not like they’re even attempting to go for the rebound.
Tonight’s ref — Bennett Salvatore. He’s been awful for 30 years
coming in I figured this game was house’s money after last night….assuming a loss….nothing really could be bad…but now we have amare in jury, tech….and potentially embarrasing defeat…wish we had just forfeited…hah!
The knicks are not even trying to play defense or get rebounds…. that’s not a good sign..
Why does Jason Terry want to touch soldiers?
Ewe – Gee – Ell – Why
The Knicks ain’t got no alibi
They ugly.
Ugly.
Ugly.
Worst part will be Barkley basking in the glow of the Knicks getting blown out tonight lol.
Glad I decided to do the writeup for this one. Can I just upload the first 15 minutes of ‘Saving Private Ryan’?
Note to self: Don’t watch Barkley tonight. ;)
Like someone said above, Harlan said its the Knicks 7th game in 10 days. Thats crazy, especially considering how short-handed they have been in the past week.
Oh, and if Kevin McHale spews one more tired cliche, I’m gonna hurl.
“Mike D’Antoni’s a basketball coach and he likes guys who are just basketball players”
“The Mavs just want it more”
Ugh
Also, worst thing that happened was Dallas losing last night and being called out by their coach.
Yeah, when they were called soft by their coach you knew they were going to take it to the Knicks tonight. Doesn’t mean that the Knicks should fold like they have tonight, but really, a great team at home with a chip on their shoulder is a tough get for any team.
Can someone please explain to me barkley’s apparent irrational hatred for the Knicks?
I assume in the 2nd half the Knicks will make a run and get the game somewhat close and not have the final score look so lopsided although at this point I could care less. Just dont have anybody get hurt and Amar’e pickup a real tech lol.
No clue, but it’s been there for awhile, so it might be something from years and years ago that no one remembers but him.
Not sure how the offense can look so bad with super star like Melo on the court. Even the great one have an off night.
Not sure if serious…
time to put AR in and Derrick Brown, 72 points in the first half, lol
What an awful first half, the Knicks look lethargic out there. Nobody is playing with an ounce of fire or energy. D’Antoni has to rally the troops.
Perhaps due to his beef with Oakley? My friend ran into Oak the other night in charlotte and spoke to him for a good 15 mins…Oakman REALLY does not care for Sir Charles.
I’d gladly trade this game and two more just to see somebody…preferably Oakley, break Kidd’s nose.
He’s my least favorite player in the NBA.
As for the game, not even Dallas can keep going at this rate. I think the Knicks will show some pride and hustle and pull within 10 by the middle of the fourth.
Then lose.
yeah, because everybody else is really playing well, specially Amare…
give it a break man, the whole “Melo Haters x Melo Defenders” is starting to become ridiculous.
I’m on the fence about Melo so i’m not even sure if I’m serious. Don’t think I’ll be issuing a Melo Culpa tonight though.
I’m on the fence, so it’s not hate or defense. Sorry to upset you with my opinion.
No need to overreact to this game…team just came out dead flat and even had they played well they probably would still be losing right now.
I’m not upset, it’s just that there’s too much overreaction on every single thing that happens with the franchise.
i’m still on the fence too, but there’s no point in generating pointless discussion by being ironic on a night when the entire team has been terrible.
but that’s just my opinion :p
If anyone honestly expected to win tonight they need to get a reality check. The idea that being on the 4th game in 5 nights, 7th in 10, on the road “out west” against the 3rd best team record wise in the NBA (I don’t think they’re near that good myself) somehow shouldn’t matter is ridiculous. It would be nice to see a better effort…I had talked myself into being excited for the game…but it was evident right out the gates that they were flat. Dallas looked flat too but I think they got their home second-wind.
2nd half keys: Make Haywood pay — 2 more fouls on him and both chandler and haywood have 4. This will help with the rebounding issues as well.
force turnovers. Mavs only had 4 turnovers.
keep a body on sean marion.
move the damn ball. get into the teeth of the defense. no more of this face up, jab step, 18 footer stuff from melo or from stoudemire
i think they want to go home
I think the Knicks will leave Dallas with a clean bill of health. How could they not after spending 48 minutes in a clinic.
I kid I kid i really do love this team.
Really feeling Chauncey’s absence right now.
they really have no energy, the knicks look like theyre playing a maverick big man offense what happened to ssol.
Second half keys: Don’t miss the bus to the airport.
Landry woke up at least
dallas is on pace to score 144 points
I don’t think chauncey would have made a world of a difference in this one….they were 4-1 without him prior to this game and they just have NO energy tonight….maybe they would be down 13-14 instead of 20+ but I couldn[t see them in this one simply by having billups in there.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll call the Knicks soft after tonight’s game.
Nice to see that even in a blowout, Landry’s still Landry-ing.
Yeah, Chauncy on the bench thinking, Mavs are lucky I’m hurt.
you know were not completely out of this yet, Dallas is playing pretty slow right now all we need is a couple threes to shake em up, or wake em up lol
Again, we’re not packing it in.
Slightly better!
Knicks are playing bad because they think they’re playing the Cavs, not the Mavs.
Lead down to 18. YEAH!
Odd thing, you run the offense and open shots magically appear. Wonder if there’s any causality there. Hmm.
STOPS
Playing great two man game and then a heave from 3…*shaking head*
Corey Brewer is fucking killing us.
Some dumb stuff here…
where’s big blue al ? i miss those comments bro.
just saw u my fault
Meadowlark Lemon and Curly Neal are still living….hmm.
Neal is 67 and Lemon is 79.
cool.
12 pts lead
Swear to guard. You think they might want to know where Terry is…?
Um. Foul?????
tired team
Our inability to get simple defensive rebounds is mind-blowing.
Midnight. WTF am I doing up this late…?
Mavs had 0 offensive rebounds from the beginning of the 3rd through the point we cut it to 12 (about 9 mins i think). Coincidence…….???
brewer is killing us, hah kinda funny, TD with a couple good sequences
So apparently Jason Terry doesn’t miss shots.
It’s like they physically don’t know how to get a rebound. The ball goes up, and they freak out and think they have to foul Chandler. That missed free throw was the last time they didn’t just answer a Knick shot right back.
I love Landry trying to sell that as off the Mav.
Not the guy you want to foul away from the ball. A disgustingly stupid foul.
Shawne williams commits some of the most bonehead fouls imaginable…..if he could cut that down somewhat, he would be a relatively respectable defensive player.
Well… At least they put up a fight, they showed some pride in the second and had some decent runs… I can’t help to worry about Stat though, he hasn’t played less than 36 mins this month (excluding at Utah), and he looked really fatigued for those few 4th quarter mins… Maybe the suspension is a blessing in disguise??? At the very least I hope we can blowout Indy in the next couple of games so we can save his knees for the last stretch…
Unbelievable. Cannot get a defensive rebound to save their life.
Take Stat and Melo out now, please.
Trounced!
Actually it’s spelled Troll.
This would have been easier to take if we hadn’t gotten our butts kicked by the Mavs at MSG.
MVP of the game: Shawn Marion. 10/15 from the field, 6 offensive rebounds.
Dallas is so deep and diversely talented. Really shows what you can do when you play the cap rules well — they are $30 million over the cap. Their 6 top guys make more than the entire knicks team. They are missing both of their starting wings — stevenson and butler — and it really doesn’t matter at all.
Didnt realize I was being missed lol.
Got home right when the game started, got something to eat at half-time and wasnt on my laptop during 2nd half lol.
This was a pretty bad game for us. But in other news, Kenny Smith completely served Charles Barkley.
What’d he say, massive?
Barkley and Kenny Smith just made me piss in my pants with the way they just made fun of the Heat players lol.
Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley were arguing over Mike D’Antoni’s system and if it could win a championship in the NBA. Charles went on to say that the system has been unsuccessful so far in the NBA, taking his usual adamant stance. But soon after Charles said that, Kenny pointed out that D’Antoni’s system went to the Conference Finals one year, and if Robert Horry hadn’t started the uproar that got five Suns’ players suspended, the Suns would have won it all that year, stating that the Suns were the NBA’s best team that year. I’ve never seen Charles Barkley so lost for words in my life. He really had no argument this time.
I always liked Kenny Smith the most out of all of the guys who do the national coverage (ESPN and TNT).
Dallas is a very good, very deep, veteran team. Dirk looks like he is on autopilot out there They might “surprise” in the West.
Nuggets kicking ass again…
I feel like I’ve written almost exactly this here at least twenty times since D’Antoni got hired.
I turned this one off in the second quarter (after flashing forward and making sure there was no miracle tonight), I’m amazed Amare ended up with 36. Dallas had three big guys who physically overpowered us, Chandler, Haywood and Nowitzki with our only real big man Shelden “DNP” Williams.
still very happy with the bottom line of 1-1 on this trip, and two days off will be welcome. hopefully Chauncey is back Sunday, the silly T is rescinded, and we’re at full strength for the Pacers games.
Real GM reports that Kobe spent more than an hour after the game shooting jumpers: “Bryant worked up a sweat with multiple ball boys feeding him passes, attempting jumpers all over the floor and coming off curls.
“This is my job,” said Bryant when asked why he shot for so long after the loss.
After finishing his shooting workout, Bryant headed to the weight room.”
Like the guy or hate him, you have to respect Kobe as an intense competitor who never takes a night off. A lot of MJ in him.
This game shows how much we need a big men who can rebound, Melo leading the team in rebounding while Extra E, Turiaf and Jeffries combine for 5 (3 offensive from Jeffries) is kinda pathetic.
As a team, I think we rebound pretty well, but against well coached teams with legit big men we’ll struggle every game on that area.
How’d they do that? That’s mind-boggling.
Yeah, that definitely is one of Kobe’s best qualities.
What they did is basically the same thing the Knicks did for years before Donnie Walsh got there – use expiring contracts and draft picks to trade for high-priced long-term contracts, re-sign your own guys to big money, long-term contracts and use the mid-level constantly. The big difference is that the Knicks were doing this while building around Allan Houston and then Stephon Marbury. The Mavericks did it building around Dirk Nowitzki.
and getting role players who don’t eat hamburgers every day also helps.