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Friday, August 22, 2014

2011 Game Thread: Knicks @ Grizzlies

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292 comments on “2011 Game Thread: Knicks @ Grizzlies

  1. jon abbey

    I will be shocked if we win either tonight or tomorrow night, especially without Billups. surprise me, boys!

  2. Doug

    I read that literally, as if you were actually commanding someone to foist something on someone.

  3. Brian Cronin

    Thanks, guys.

    And Jim, I bet Lapchick felt that Irish was being a #$&%*!&# for drafting a player without Lapchick’s input. ;)

  4. Frank O.

    Gasol’s feet with inside the circle.
    Crap call there and crap call on the out of bounds/
    WTF

  5. Jim Cavan

    …. Did Stat just take that meaningless after-the-whistle Gasol 2-footer and throw it BACK through the rim?

  6. Frank O.

    Jim Cavan: …. Did Stat just take that meaningless after-the-whistle Gasol 2-footer and throw it BACK through the rim?  

    Stat has a thing about that

  7. Jim Cavan

    Frank O.: Stat has a thing about that

    I’ve seen him swat shots at the rim plenty of times, but I can’t say I’ve ever seen that.

  8. BigBlueAL

    Knicks lack of ball-handling w/o Billups is going to be a big problem tonight vs Memphis and their ball-hawking on D. You can already see how they lead the league in steals.

  9. dsulz

    Too much outside shooting. Too many TOs. Not enough defense. And yet we’re still up 3.

  10. Jim Cavan

    BigBlueAL: I think Mason has earned himself a permanent spot in the rotation.  

    This really has to make you wonder. He’s glued to the bench all year, and we’ve been told this happens to D’Antoni players when they don’t show enough in practice. But then a rash of injuries makes it necessary he plays, he plays decent, and now he’s suddenly one of the first guys off the bench? If playing decent in a game situation means you get playing time, then that begs the question: why didn’t AR ever get any burn? Or Mason before the injuries? Unless Mason suddenly turned it on in practice, it doesn’t make much sense.

  11. art vandelay

    I couldn’t even hear the crowd…is there one tonight? as for shawne williams….I think you are being kind on 2 for 30…I have yet to see him known down a jumper off the dribble this season.

  12. Bruno Almeida

    just too much dribbling out there, Memphis is too active to keep dribbling the ball near the paint.

    but so far, considering the turnovers and sloppy defense, pretty good 1st quarter.

  13. art vandelay

    Probably because I cannot think of a time when AR played decently in game situation….he simply never played within a team concept.

  14. BigBlueAL

    Jim Cavan:
    This really has to make you wonder. He’s glued to the bench all year, and we’ve been told this happens to D’Antoni players when they don’t show enough in practice. But then a rash of injuries makes it necessary he plays, he plays decent, and now he’s suddenly one of the first guys off the bench? If playing decent in a game situation means you get playing time, then that begs the question: why didn’t AR ever get any burn? Or Mason before the injuries? Unless Mason suddenly turned it on in practice, it doesn’t make much sense.  

    Its not hard to figure out, Mason and Randolph were beyond pathetic when they played earlier in the season.

  15. Garson

    Gotta say, with fields mason douglas carter shawne jeffries and ronny, we have a nice balance of defense and 3s bulit around our stars… nice job donnie.

  16. Frank O.

    Anthony Carter looks like the middle aged ballplayers in my neighborhood. The can play, but they can’t jump anymore

  17. dsulz

    JK47: This just in: Melo can pass.

    Fo’ sho. It’s a beautiful thing to see. Now if he would just stop shooting those double-pump hanging jumpers from 20. . .no seriously, I love watching Melo getting others involved.

  18. Frank O.

    jaylamerique:
    yah it makes me wonder about that ball stopper rep  

    I’m telling you, it’s the system. I had a feeling he’d get more efficient in this system

  19. art vandelay

    If ever there were a game we needed Billups, against a particular team, it would be this one!

  20. tenebrous

    Frank O.: Dear Clyde:
    The crowd was not in a frenzy.
    Your friend,
    Frank  

    Clyde is funny – I don’t think he’s a Knicks fan – he never biggs them up ever – sorry Clyde but were forced to listen to u not being excited like we r

  21. Frank O.

    tenebrous:
    Clyde is funny – I don’t think he’s a Knicks fan – he never biggs them up ever – sorry Clyde but were forced to listen to u not being excited like we r  

    Having said that I find the homer announcers for other teams to be embarrassing.
    Last night I was watching the hawks, or was it the night before…They were down by 10, but judging from the announcers and the clips they showed repeatedly, you would have thought they were walking over the opponent.
    I think it’s more professional to call games straight. That’s my personal feeling.

  22. Doug

    Jim Cavan: 0 Free throws? Did I hear that right?  

    Clyde said they’re shooting jumpers so well, they haven’t needed to drive into the lane to score.

  23. Doug

    Frank O.:
    Having said that I find the homer announcers for other teams to be embarrassing.
    Last night I was watching the hawks, or was it the night before…They were down by 10, but judging from the announcers and the clips they showed repeatedly, you would have thought they were walking over the opponent.
    I think it’s more professional to call games straight. That’s my personal feeling.  

    It’s more classier!

  24. Jim Cavan

    Frank O.: I think it’s more professional to call games straight. That’s my personal feeling.

    You mean like Tommy Heinsohn?

  25. d-mar

    Seriously, is there a better shooting big man in the NBA right now than STAT? It’s gotten to the point where you expect the ball to go in every time he shoots.

  26. art vandelay

    Were it not for the TOs the knicks would be up 20+….easy to say that, however, when the memphis D, for the most part, has caused a large swath of those TOs, in spite of a few unforced ones.

    btw, is it just me or has STAT REALLY improved his J….I don’t remember him ever shooting so proficiently from outside as a Sun….remarkable…I really didn’t expect this when he signed last summer.

  27. Doug

    d-mar: Seriously, is there a better shooting big man in the NBA right now than STAT? It’s gotten to the point where you expect the ball to go in every time he shoots.  

    I swear his release has gotten quicker and quicker as the season goes on.

  28. BigBlueAL

    Jim Cavan: Stat has almost flawless form for a guy his size. Really beautiful to watch.  

    Never in a million years did I think Amar’e was this good offensively. Or should I say this versatile in offense in terms of the ways he can score.

  29. art vandelay

    Neither did the rest of the “experts” who said he would be a bust without Nash…so pretty much I would say we were just about all wrong about his versatility and overall offensive prowess.

  30. Jim Cavan

    The Grizzles don’t seem to have much of an offense going right now. If we pick up the defensive intensity a notch in the 2nd half and not hand them 16 more points on a silver platter, we should be fine.

  31. latke

    art vandelay: Were it not for the TOs the knicks would be up 20+….easy to say that, however, when the memphis D, for the most part, has caused a large swath of those TOs, in spite of a few unforced ones.btw, is it just me or has STAT REALLY improved his J….I don’t remember him ever shooting so proficiently from outside as a Sun….remarkable…I really didn’t expect this when he signed last summer.  

    You have to remember though that part of the reason we’re scoring so easily is because when we don’t turn it over, defenders are out of position (from going for steals).

  32. BigBlueAL

    Its a good thing for the rest of the NBA that Spoelstra has no clue how to coach offense the way D’Antoni does lol.

  33. dsulz

    Frank O.: The game would be almost over right now if the knicks protected the ball better

    Probably, Frank O, but what isn’t so apparent is how much the Grizzlies over-anticipation has given the Knicks open shots. Which we’ve knocked down. So while I think you’re technically right, I’d also say that we’re benefitting from the Grizz defense as much as we’re being hurt by it. The biggest issue is that we haven’t been intimidated, which almost certainly would have happened when we still had our Lost Boys.

  34. Bruno Almeida

    BigBlueAL: Holy shit this is some amazing offense by the Knicks.  

    yeah, it’s been pretty insane, Melo and Amare are in the zone right now, and TDDWTDD with another pretty nice start.

    the great thing about Amare is that he definitely cares… he surely heard all the criticism that he was crazy, that he would be crap without Nash, and he seems hellbent on proving everybody wrong.

    Bill Simmons said it a couple of times already and it makes a lot of sense, Amare really does believe he’s the best player alive and his team will be elite, and that’s an awesome incentive for him to prove everybody else wrong.

  35. Frank O.

    BTW, have you guys noticed the knicks boards. They are out-rebounding a team with good board people.
    They have rebounded quite well since the trade. The difference appears to be everyone hitting the boards.

  36. Jim Cavan

    Frank O.: What an f’in shill

    My fiance is a Celtics fan, so I have to listen to that clown pretty often. Look up “cantankerous” in the dictionary, and it’s a picture of Tommy Heinsohn complaining about what page he’s on.

  37. d-mar

    The following “Melo-myths” have officially been debunked:

    1) Ball stopper – he’ll kill the offensive flow
    2) Poor passer, never gets other players involved
    3) Indifferent on defense

  38. BigBlueAL

    d-mar: The following “Melo-myths” have officially been debunked:1) Ball stopper – he’ll kill the offensive flow
    2) Poor passer, never gets other players involved
    3) Indifferent on defense  

    What are you talking about?? Thats not what the stats say!!!!!

  39. cgreene

    Sixers and Knicks > Hawks

    I see the Sixers at the 5, Knicks at 6 and Hawks falling to 7th seed. Haven’t looked at Hawks schedule but Sixers is pretty easy. They have the easiest 4 game West Coast trip ever. Similar to ours in November.

  40. ww007

    It’s nice that Melo is looking for his teammates more. Let’s hope he keeps that up.

    And yeah I didn’t realize Stat had such a nice jumper either… he’s so money from mid-range now. I think that’s a big difference between him and Bosh – Bosh’s mid-range game is not nearly as consistent, which I think is a large reason why he’s struggling in Miami.

  41. BigBlueAL

    This is incredible. Where are those people complaining that after the trade the Knicks werent going to be fun to watch anymore offensively????

  42. ww007

    Wow Knicks up by 15… did not expect that. They’re unconscious with their jumper right now.

  43. David Crockett

    BigBlueAL: This is incredible.Where are those people complaining that after the trade the Knicks werent going to be fun to watch anymore offensively????  

    The first couple games Melo was massaging the ball. The past several he has really been moving it. I really didn’t know he was as good a passer. No excessive creativity. Just “meat and potatoes” as Hubie would say.

  44. tenebrous

    Jetties makes a shot holy moly jj did u ck with the coach and tu take an example from jj tu u got a shot even 3s – jj ask Clyde for a gMe of horse :-)

  45. David Crockett

    We’ve probably drawn more charges in the games since the trade than damn near the whole season up to that point.

  46. Frank O.

    If they protected the ball better in the 1st half, this would be a 30 point bulge easily.
    Grizz don’t have the 3 shooters to get themselves in this game. They would need to steal their way back.
    Pour it on baby

  47. Frank O.

    Btw, looks like jeffries has been in the weight room a bit. He’s a little meatier than in past years.

  48. Bruno Almeida

    the zone has been such an awesome addition, we really have the personnel to do it now and it can throw teams without 3pt shooters like Memphis out of their rhythm.

  49. bobneptune

    BigBlueAL:
    Never in a million years did I think Amar’e was this good offensively.Or should I say this versatile in offense in terms of the ways he can score.  

    i never get it when people say this. amar’e was probably the best player in the western conference the last half of last season. from jan 1, 2010 thru the end of the season he averaged 26.3 per game and carried phx to the conference finals. the guy’s a great offensive player.

  50. David Crockett

    micdan: nyk 1/1 ft griz.. 17/17the referees are killing us  

    They’re allowing lots of contact on our shots too.

  51. David Crockett

    DRed: Is Landry Fields the best draft pick the Knicks have ever made?Is it too soon to ask?  

    cough. Patrick Ewing. cough.

  52. BigBlueAL

    DRed: Is Landry Fields the best draft pick the Knicks have ever made?Is it too soon to ask?  

    I believe the Knicks also drafted Reed, Clyde and Ewing :-)

  53. cgreene

    Jeez. Stat is just a beast right now. It’s amazing what’s happening when the D can’t key on him. Wow.

  54. Frank O.

    Wow
    Mason

    Have you ever seen a more surprising 14 pt lead.
    It’s not effortless. That’s the wrong word, but no matter what the griz do, the Knicks seem to pull ahead.

    This half the refs are keeping the Griz in it

  55. BigBlueAL

    DRed: I didn’t ask if he was the best player the Knicks have drafted.He’s clearly not.  

    I was teasing you, I know what you meant.

    We should probably look up Knicks draft picks that werent 1st rounders. I believe Gerald Wilkins was a 2nd rounder. Dunno about any older Knick players.

  56. Frank O.

    Seriously, melo is getting assists, his shooting is way more efficient and his shots and Amare’s have evened out.
    astounding

  57. BigBlueAL

    Bad thing about Melo, he loves heaving bad 3pt shots at the quarter buzzers just like Felton did lol.

  58. Frank O.

    Jim Cavan: Save some for Dallas boys.  

    Not sure. memphis is tough. They keep scraping back into it. Knicks need a run. Memphis is at home. Knicks need to be careful

  59. SangaD

    what a bench, I want to say that we could rival any bench in the nba but I’ll settle for the best bench in the east, a few more minutes for Rautins and we definitely have the best PG rotation

  60. Bruno Almeida

    Frank O.: Seriously, melo is getting assists, his shooting is way more efficient and his shots and Amare’s have evened out.
    astounding  

    yeah, we definitely can’t complain about the shots issue, it was really just an adaptation period for Melo.

  61. Jim Cavan

    Frank O.: Not sure. memphis is tough. They keep scraping back into it. Knicks need a run. Memphis is at home. Knicks need to be careful Frank O.

    Don’t worry. I rapped on a piece of rich mahogany.

  62. Jim Cavan

    I’m sorry, I don’t care how well we’re shooting, a 25-2 free throw disparity is ridiculous.

  63. TheXman

    yea even when they were up by 17 i wasn’t that comfortable, amazing that the grizz have stuck around

  64. micdan

    Frank O.: Grizzlies 29 FT attempts
    the Knicks 2This is starting to get outrageous  

    yeah that i was thinking since the third quarter the referee are helping memphis stay in the game

  65. d-mar

    That might have been Extra E’s biggest shot of the season, esp. because it was the Knicks first points of the 4th quarter.

  66. Jim Cavan

    I’ve never been more excited to see a pair of free throws. I just wet myself with glee.

  67. Frank O.

    See Melo telling Jeffries, “use your ass to push them back.”
    Jeffries just smiles.
    You have to like that Melo is talking like that

  68. d-mar

    Lol at Melo telling Jeffries how to finish underneath during the timeout. He’s obviously never played with Jeffries before!

  69. Z

    BigBlueAL:
    I believe the Knicks also drafted Reed, Clyde and Ewing :-)  

    Honestly, I think he’s the best pick since Reed. Ewing was a no- brainer. There was nobody else to select with that pick. Clyde wasn’t much of a crap shoot either. Fields being picked 39th, off of most peoples charts altogether, makes him a great, great pick.

  70. Frank O.

    How does TD throw a pass like that????
    Pull douglas, please.
    Stupid 3 and then a lax underhand pass

  71. JK47

    Holy crap. That was a tough one. Hard to overcome that much crappy refereeing, but I’ll take the W.

  72. Count de Pennies

    Meh… Gallo or Chandler would have made that exact same shot in that exact same situation.

  73. KnickInSeattle

    @230 that’s about the silliest thing I’ve ever read on this blog…and the blog is about 50% goofy these days.

  74. Jim Cavan

    KnickInSeattle: @230 that’s about the silliest thing I’ve ever read on this blog…and the blog is about 50% goofy these days.  

    I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he was being facetious.

  75. Bruno Almeida

    MELO!

    it was definitely tougher than it should have been, but let’s give credit to Memphis, they were pretty awesome defensively and really capitalized on our mistakes, even though the referees helped them so much.

  76. SangaD

    lovin this knick team guys this feels like ’99 again Im looking to see us upset boston this month then it clear to the east finals. One more round then Im all in !

  77. KnickInSeattle

    @236, yeah probably.
    I’ve just been conditioned by the frequency of silly posts lately…

  78. massive

    Frank O.: “You gotta pass to the guy that is open…”
    Carmelo Anthony  

    And who said D’Antoni couldn’t make him a better player?

  79. Jim Cavan

    I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever seen that big of a free throw disparity. That reffing was honestly a joke. Sorry, I know we need to get over that. TD was definitely sketchy down the stretch, but he really did play a hell of a game.

    And Melo….. Man-sized.

    Great ugly win.

  80. Frank O.

    Defensive principles…???
    Landry references defensive principles….
    What are these principles of which he speaks

  81. Jim Cavan

    DReDD: Credit to Jim Cavan, he coined it in the Atl game recap thread

    Full disclosure: I was one degree of separation from the genesis of that one. But it’s amazing that it really hasn’t been thrown out more.

  82. DRed

    I left work with a minute or two left in the third-thought we were cruising to a comfortable win. What happened there down the stretch? Still, can’t complain about beating a good team and the referees on the road. Roll on to big D.

  83. Z-man

    Very gritty road win vs. a hot, very tough defensive team. Coming down the stretch, this game had disaster written all over it, especially after the 3-pt play by Zach.

  84. massive

    Toney Douglas with 18 points (4-8 from deep) and 10 assists tonight. I’m starting to feel comfortable with him as a back-up PG.

  85. DRed

    Gotta give some credit to the monopoly man as well. Right after the ‘Melo trade we clearly had no idea what pieces were going to fit together, but now it looks like D’Antonio has it figured out pretty well (so long as we’re not playing the Cavs)

  86. latke

    Frank O.: Mavs loses.
    going to be a tough one tomorrow  

    especially with stoudemire playing 41 minutes and Anthony playing 40. Without Billups, it’s going to be tough for D’Antoni to limit their minutes. His rotations were screwy all game. Why not let stoudemire come out as usual at the 5 minute mark in the first quarter? It’s not like we were getting blown out.

  87. Count de Pennies

    Any truth to the rumor that the Mavs will be replacing the “M” on their jersey with a “C” tomorrow night?

  88. Jim Cavan

    latke:
    especially with stoudemire playing 41 minutes and Anthony playing 40. Without Billups, it’s going to be tough for D’Antoni to limit their minutes. His rotations were screwy all game. Why not let stoudemire come out as usual at the 5 minute mark in the first quarter? It’s not like we were getting blown out.  

    If it’s any consolation Dirk and Kidd both played a heavy 35 minutes tonight in what looked like a pretty gritty game. And they’re older. Maybe the back-to-back will affect them more. Even if we lose, I’m happy to take a split back home.

  89. dsulz

    Pretty clutch win. Yes, we collapsed down the stretch. But the Grizz was hot. Won 17 of their last 23. Their D is something fierce. We were without our starting PG and controlled most of the game. And of course Melo’s shot at the end. It’s an good win, however you want to slice it.

    What’s funny is that with Billups you almost certainly don’t get that collapse down the stretch. OTOH, with Billups starting instead of TD, I don’t think you get quite the same offensive pop that you had for 3 quarters, and you don’t get the defensive tenacity on Conley ( looking at the box score, Conley seems to have played better than I realized. But I loved TDs energy going around screens. It helped the whole defense stay honest). Which is to say, had Billups been in the game, we probably still would have won, but I think the game would have been a lot closer throughout. On the bright side: we have depth at the PG!!

  90. jon abbey

    Z: Way to surprise Jon Abbey, boys

    let me be the first to say:

    MELO CULPA

    may I be the first of many many in the future to say that…

    Tony Allen looked superhuman tonight, I can’t believe he was somehow a -10.

    it’s amazing enough that we’re doing this (now 5-1 against over .500 teams since the deal), but doing it without Billups is hard to believe.

  91. TheXman

    A little too early to say things are gelling, they shot abnormally lights out and they won’t usually shoot like that. It’s more troubling how the offense was stagnant in the 4th quarter, we almost choked this. Thank god.

  92. dsulz

    TheXman: they shot abnormally lights out and they won’t usually shoot like that.

    True, but surely you should be happy with all those assists we had, six of which were Melo’s. We were hot, we had a few lucky shots, but a lot of our looks were the result of crisp efficient ball movement.

  93. massive

    Our hot shooting, in a way, is balanced out by our non-existent free throw attempts. If we take 20 more free throws, this game is likely a blowout and we’re in garbage time again. Still, its good to see the Knicks win a close one down the stretch on the road.

  94. nicos

    TD was very impressive for 3.5 quarters- if he can just run the offense a little bit (like he did for most of the night tonight) he could really be a great 6th man. His numbers while starting 16.6 ppg at a terrific TS of 70% and maybe even more impressive 6.6 apg with a 3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.

    Also a little love for Melo- over the last 5 games his TS is 60%. I don’t think he’ll keep shooting threes like he has over the last few games but as he gets used to the system and Billups gets back you can see that it’s not crazy to expect a real boost in his TS- not a sure thing but certainly not out of the question.

  95. nicos

    Also- Memphis is going to have an interesting decision on their hands in the summer as they really can’t sign both Gasol and Randolph. While I’d still guess they’d lean towards Gasol, I think Randolph (especially if he stays as active on defense as he was last night) is probably the better player- Gasol is too soft on the boards and not a great defender- do you really want to be the team who gives him 55-60m over the next five years? I wouldn’t want to give Z-Bo that deal either so it’s going to be a tough call.

  96. Max

    5-3 Post Trade and two of the losses with the Cavs?
    That’s probably a candidate for the “Joke of the Year 2011″ Award…
    :-D

    TD is playing well, Roger Mason’s playing well, I don’t understand why Mike didn’t use S.Williams for 5 minutes to give STAT a break.
    Interesting thoughts on the Z-Bo/Gasol Jr. situation, if he stays healty I’d rather go with Tyson Chandler but Cuban’ll shower him with dollars… maybe (new CBA is looming).

    By the way, another tough one coming in Dallas, let’s play!

  97. Z-man

    Melo is shooting 35% from 3 this year, and well over 40% in his last 18 games (half with knicks, half with Denver.) Considering the pressure he has been under for that stretch, the talk that he should stop taking 3′s seems overblown.

  98. Nick C.

    Once Billups comes back things could really starts picking up even more. This game stagnated becuase Carter seems to have about a five minute run of effectiveness and then he starts to pfft and make some dubious decisions instead of bring the ball up and get a ton of deflections. TD just is braindead late in close games (see Cleveland for one). How many times is he going to do that one on four in the lane get whistled for the charge play. Of course stastically none of that holds water…guys outliving their usefulness in more than few minutes of play or final minutes being different than fiirst 40+.

  99. jon abbey

    “Once Billups comes back things could really starts picking up even more.”

    I’m actually worried he’ll hurt our improving D, maybe he can sit the first three quarters and play the whole fourth. :)

  100. Frank O.

    jon abbey: “Once Billups comes back things could really starts picking up even more.”I’m actually worried he’ll hurt our improving D, maybe he can sit the first three quarters and play the whole fourth. :)  

    I think this is a valid concern that could be addressed simply by putting Billups on the 2 and letting TD or Landry take the PG.
    Billups is big enough and strong enough to guard a 2.

    Several posters questioned the minutes asked of Stat and Melo. I think this was a case of D’Antoni leaving the big guys in early to try and deliver a knock out punch. If the Knicks had been able to protect the ball better and get to the line, their early lead easily could have reach 25, and effectively that game was done.
    But the Knicks never could get to the line and their passing game, they pass a lot comparatively, increases opportunities for opportunistic teams to come up with more steals.
    Memphis is really excellent in defending with their heads up and filling passing lanes and playing angles. It truly was a study in defense we haven’t seen this year.
    Given the Knicks were in a dog fight, the ops faded to get Melo and Stat rest. After all, going into a back to back, you absolutely must deliver a win on the front end. Without it, you’re not only tired for the second game, you’re now under intense pressure to win.
    At least now, they have the win. A game with Dallas, one of the very best in basketball, won’t be a do or die situation.
    As jon abbey noted last night, it is expecting a lot to beat both these teams. That the knicks beat a very game Memphis squad at home is something we all should feel very hopeful about.

    Last point: the Knicks away record (18-13) bodes rather well for them come playoff time. They are beating the better teams in the league without their best players.

  101. dsulz

    nicos: TD was very impressive for 3.5 quarters- if he can just run the offense a little bit (like he did for most of the night tonight) he could really be a great 6th man. His numbers while starting 16.6 ppg at a terrific TS of 70% and maybe even more impressive 6.6 apg with a 3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.

    To me it’s very clear that TD needs at least 20 minutes a night, even once Billups returns. TD’s still young, he freezes up down the stretch, so put him on the bench then, but I’d have him playing most of the second and third quarters. He’s the only Knick right now other than Melo who can score off the dribble. His 3pt shot is sick. And his defense–to my mind–is quite a bit better than Chaunce’s. What do you guys think?

  102. Frank

    I think Billups’s injury has been a blessing in disguise. Not only has he had time for the rest of his body to heal up, this whole period has been a huge confidence booster for TD and for Anthony Carter. Having 4-5 solid guards that can play (Billups, TD, Carter, Landry) is huge going down the stretch. I’d like to see Billups limited to 30 min/game or so — perhaps 8 min in the 1st, 6 min in 2nd, 8 min to start off 3rd, and the last 6-8 min of the game. TD’s ability to run the offense well will make that possible. There are 96 minutes to go around in the PG/SG rotation, so Billups, TD, and Landry each get 28-32 min and AC picks up the rest. Should keep them well rested throughout. Especially Landry – he’s a rook and probably has hit multiple rookie walls this year.

    Re: Melo – he certainly has his weaknesses but we have not had a player like this since maybe Sprewell, and Sprewell is not nearly as good as Melo. A guy who when all else breaks down (and this happens a lot against good teams and in the playoffs), can put the team on his back and make a play at the end of the game. As much as I love STAT, he is miscast in an iso setting at the end of games. Too many turnovers, not good enough as a ballhandler etc. Obviously we would all love it if we ran great offense at the end of games and got a wide open layup or other such good shot, but good defenses (like Memphis) sometimes take those away. It IS important to have someone who has taken and made lots of high-pressure shots.

  103. Frank

    Meanwhile, I saw nothing out of Marc Gasol last night that makes me want to pay him $10M+ ever. He’s way too slow and clumsy to play in this system. Good passer but I didn’t see a whole lot otherwise.

  104. Garson

    I would love to see a statistic on Stats % on the curl play in which he drains the jumper at the foul line extended… We should be running that play 10 times a game!

  105. cgreene

    Funny I was just saying the same thing about Billups’ injury. Definite blessing in disguise now that we won a bunch of games without him for all the reasons Frank said.

    Also agree that Gasol is not the right guy for us at all. He should have dominated our small interior and instead he got destroyed by Stat. We need more of a defense/rebounding bodyguard type. Chandler would be perfect but not gonna happen. I was secretly hoping for Kendrick Perkins. Think he would have been perfect for us. On a Kendrick tangent I think the Celtics trade may have just cost them the title. Lakers interior looks monstrous and the Celtics got a lot thinner without Perk. Shaq’s hurt and is only good for 20 mins a night anyway. If I was a Celts fan I would be pissed about that. Anyone for a flier on Oden?

  106. dsulz

    Frank: As much as I love STAT, he is miscast in an iso setting at the end of games.

    Perfectly articulated. This was always the big upgrade getting Melo –an iso player who could bring you home when all else went to shit. Felt, Wil, and Gallo–much as I loved them–did not have this capacity. Felt could get too out of control. Wil’s off the dribble game was uncomfortably improvisational, he would kind of stumble into moments of brilliance. And down the stretch Gallo turned into a spot-up jump shooter. With Melo, it’s that pure machine-like efficiency. One dribble, boom.

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