Statistical Analysis. Humor. Knicks.

Tuesday, July 29, 2014

32 comments on “2010 Game Thread: Pacers at Knicks

  1. Robert Silverman

    No Troy Murphy for the Hoosiers. Am I the only one who thinks he (Murphy) looks like the weird love child of Pat Cummings and David Schwimmer?

  2. Robert Silverman

    I’m also having some strange, “This is the game the Knicks make Roy Hibbert look like Moses Malone” vibes…

  3. Owen

    I think Hughes’ honeymoon in the media after a couple strong performances is going to come to an end, starting right about now, he is a horrible scorer…

  4. Robert Silverman

    The officiating in this game is horrible. In other shocking news, the sun will rise tomorrow.

  5. BigBlueAL

    Just got home and see the Knicks are down 6 late in the 4th quarter. Losing this game is embarrassing.

  6. Kikuchiyo

    I’ve been watching games via League Pass BB this year, which allows me to watch every game EXCEPT FOR KNICKS GAMES. They say the blackout policy is there for everyone, but I have a sneaking suspicion that my therapist set this arrangement up.

    Serenity now!

  7. d-mar

    Let’s see, no Murphy, no Dunleavy, no Foster. Pacers played last night, Grainger fouls out with about 5 minutes to go. Result? Knicks lose by 12. Good to see them build on the Hornets win. Ugh.

  8. BigBlueAL

    As some of you know as much as I love the Knicks and basketball the Yankees and baseball are ever so slightly ahead of the former as my fave team and sport. Obviously I am thrilled tonight but still I enjoyed the 1996, 1998-2000 teams more if only because they were the first championships I celebrated as a fan (I am 29 yo) and back then there wasnt all this talk about payrolls and stuff.

    Watching the Yankees just made me even more depressed and sad about being a Knicks fan. There was a time when being a Knicks fan was actually much more fun and enjoyable than being a Yankees fan. My first championship celebration I was sure was going to be as a Knicks fan in 1993 or 1994. Even when the Yankees became champs again the Knicks were still in the spotlight because they were very good and always at the minimum reached the 2nd round of the playoffs. What has happened????

    I can only imagine how excited I would be to celebrate a Knicks championship but even though I again am only 29 I sadly can picture myself never knowing that feeling. Im pretty sure I have another 10 to 20 Yankees titles to celebrate the rest of my life but the Knicks???? Heck right now I will just take making the freakin playoffs for once…….

  9. ess-dog

    Mike needs to bust Al down from 35 minutes a game to 20 minutes… and Jeffries down to 5 minutes. Give those minutes to Hill or Landry. We’re never going to win anything with Al Harrington “leading” the way. I’d rather lose with hardworking scrubs.

  10. daaarn

    BigBlueAL,
    I’ve got similar sentiments. Although I’m just a young 20something now, I still remember some of the tail end of those unremarkable [80s-]early 90s Yankees teams led by Donny, and that ’95 ALDS was pretty heartbreaking for a kid at the time. Still, basketball and the Knicks were my first love, and thanks to their general success (not to mention me possessing the attention span of a goldfish), I was able to blow off any disappointments caused by the Yankees once basketball season rolled around. Anyway, I’ve since seen the Yanks win 5 World Series, but I honestly think a Knicks championship would rank up there against any of them.

    I mean, we’re already 35years+ removed since the last time the Knicks won the Finals, and we are no where close to winning another. I was lucky I became a Knicks fan at a time when they were yearly contenders, but the number of non-playoff, losing seasons I’ve watched is starting to catch up to the good years. Anyway at this rate, I can only dream about seeing a Knicks victory parade one day. At least I still have the Yankees.

  11. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Hate to blow this whistle this early, but without a first-round draft pick and no future in sight for all but one of our young players, this season is shaping up to be a huge bust. I’m ready to trade in my Knickerbocker fan club card and start new. The Knicks are 20th in offensive efficiency and 27th in defensive. They have the second worst points-differential per game in the league (-8.8), only behind the dreadful Nets. Hockey season, anyone?

  12. ess-dog

    I know, it’s such a joke. What worries me is that Al is one of “Walsh’s guys”, yet he’s almost as delusional as Starbury. If he can accept a 20 min. a game role off the bench, where he just gives us post scoring and the occasional 3-ball against the 2nd unit, then fine. But he seems to think he’s a starter/leading scorer/team captain and he’s just not.
    I might have to check out for a couple of weeks until Douglas and Hill start getting burn. It’s like I’m ordering the same week-old liver sandwich over and over, thinking one day it will be the best BLT I’ve ever had. I need a break.

  13. Owen

    It was interesting watching D’Antoni talk before the game about Larry Hughes, about how he hadn’t thought he was going to fit and how delighted he was to find out that he did actually fit. Hughes promptly went out and posted 2-10 with 3 turnovers and five fouls.

    As for blowing the whistle, the writing has been on the wall for a long time.

    Honestly, there is no place in the world like MSG when it gets behind a talented Knicks team. I look forward to seeing a great squad out there again so much. But it’s not happening for a while…

  14. tastycakes

    I suppose I should be content with Yankees and Giants championships in the last two years.

    This Yankee team was my favorite — to me, they had a stronger personality than the dynasty teams, they were scrappier. The whole postseason had an air of “let’s not take this for granted” which had been missing.

    And what a contrast from the Knickerbockers. The Yanks are loaded with superstars, sure, but also guys of the utmost consistency. It’s a joy watching the Jeter/Pettitte/Rivera/Posada combo get one more ring. There is nobody on the Knicks I care to be watching play in 5 years (*maybe* Gallo and Lee) — the Yankee quartet has been delivering for 15 years now.

    Well, I guess I can turn my attention to basketball now :)

  15. GAx

    “Well, I guess I can turn my attention to basketball now :)”

    That was the one sobering thought I had after the Yankees game last night. Then I went back to celebrating because Knicks fans need SOMETHING to remind them what victory smells like.

    It smells good. These Knicks need some of Jeter’s cologne.

  16. d-mar

    Ok, to add more depressing fodder to this already depressing season, is there any NBA roster that we would not swap ours for? I guess the worst team in the East is the Nets, and Harris and Lopez are better or as good as our top 2 guys (who are they BTW? Lee? Harrington) Out West, it would be the Kings probably, and they have Kevin Martin and a promising Tyreke Evans. I’d take those guys over ours also. The Knicks entire future has boiled down to free agents in 2010, I really hope there are players willing to join this f—ed up roster.

  17. cgreene

    Want to know what is funny also. Next year with no pick and David Lee (arguably our best player) most probably leaving, we could be worse. Unless there are literally no offers out there for them why would even one of the 2nd tier guys like Bosh or Joe Johnson leave much better scenarios to come to NY? To be the best player on bad teams? They are already the best players on mediocre teams that want to resign them. Walsh effed this up.

    On another note, D’Antoni is only a good coach of good players meaning he does not develop guys or seemingly get the maximum out of their talent. Therefore (although I like him) he is a bad fit.

  18. Robert Silverman

    “Ok, to add more depressing fodder to this already depressing season, is there any NBA roster that we would not swap ours for?”

    Sure.
    Washington: .500 team at best. No cap room. No young stars
    Detroit: Maxed out w/Gordon & Villanueva
    Indiana: One good player (Granger) some awful contracts and no youngsters on the rise
    Milwaukee: Brandon Jennings (maybe) is their only asset. Overpaid Andrew Bogut. Redd’s fading fast
    Sacramento: Not a Tyreke Evans fan
    Philadelphia: Awful Brand/Dalembert contracts. Maxed out Iguodala (who’s a borderline at best).
    Memphis: Z-Bo and Iverson? No thanks. Conley’s looking like a bust. You’ve got Mayo, Gay’s ready to bolt and a decent center in Gasol. No thanks.

    This is not to say that last night’s debacle wasn’t awful, but yes, there are teams in worse shape than ours.

  19. BigBlueAL

    Right, the Knicks are actually in very good shape for the future because of their cap space. BUT the thing is of course how will they use it assuming they dont get Lebron or Wade.

    Admittedly it is depressing that the only real bright spot for the future is Gallo, although I still hold out hope for Chandler if he is surrounded by better players in the future. Even Lee I dont count as the future because I dont see how they keep him and if they do it will only mean they missed out on almost all the FA’s they really wanted.

    I know everyone is harping on passing on Jennings and Lawson and rightfully so, but Stephen Curry has played pretty good too with the dysfunctional Warriors and again how different would this team and their future look like if Curry had been there at #8 and the Knicks wouldve gotten the player they wanted all along????

  20. d-mar

    Robert – If we’re talking about next year and beyond, then maybe you have a point, but I was really asking about today’s roster. I can’t agree with your list if we just look at this year:

    Wash. – Arenas, Butler and Jamison
    Detroit – Hamilton, Prince, Gordon
    Indiana – Murphy, Dunleavy, Grainger (maybe this one is close, but Grainger is better than anyone on the Knicks)
    Bucks – Jennings, Bogut, Redd (close also, but who on the Knicks is hands down better than Bogut or Redd)
    Kings – Martin, Evans (jury’s out, but he did go #2)
    Sixers – Iguodala, Young, Dalembert, L. Williams, Speights
    Memphis – Gay, Mayo

    I think Walsh’s strategy of clearing cap space was the only road he could take, and granted, the above team’s have cloudy futures, but unless this year’s team shows something, I’m becoming more and more skeptical about grabbing top shelf FA’s. The D’Antoni/ NYC factor can only carry so much weight.

  21. Robert Silverman

    “I think Walsh’s strategy of clearing cap space was the only road he could take, and granted, the above team’s have cloudy futures, but unless this year’s team shows something, I’m becoming more and more skeptical about grabbing top shelf FA’s. The D’Antoni/ NYC factor can only carry so much weight.”

    W/o a doubt the above teams are equal to or better than the Nix right now. But none of them has any chance of building a legit contender in the next 3-4 years. As abysmally as this team has played so far, the Knicks do.

    I’ve liked most of Walsh’s moves so far, assuming that the JJ/Nate to Sacramento deal was fiction and they couldn’t top DC’s offer for the 5th pick. The one thing that’s pissed me off w/r/t is that in this draft (and it’s waaaaaayyy to early to begin speculating), the team desperately needed to add a player who could be in the 8-man rotation of a contender. Whether or not Hill/Douglas becomes that is definitely TBD, but I’m among the many who was seriously pining for Lawson/Blair (Jennings, not so much. He’s too Nick Van Exel for my taste) on draft night. Watching them thrive (granted, on winning teams where their deficiencies are lessened and strengths are magnified), is really frustrating and does make the outlook seem all the more bleak.

  22. Robert Silverman

    And if, this summer, you can’t get LBJ or Wade, well then, I’d like to think that Walsh puts his ducats back in his pocket for 2011, re-signs Lee and another undervalued (Sessions-esque) player and waits to bag a true superstar instead of say, effing the team long-term by giving big money to Joe Johnson or Bosh or Stoudamire.

  23. d-mar

    “And if, this summer, you can’t get LBJ or Wade, well then, I’d like to think that Walsh puts his ducats back in his pocket for 2011, re-signs Lee and another undervalued (Sessions-esque) player and waits to bag a true superstar instead of say, effing the team long-term by giving big money to Joe Johnson or Bosh or Stoudamire.”

    Your logic is valid, but man, I don’t think I can take another season of irrelevancy (or my bank account can take another hit with dumping season tickets!) Would it be worth it if you could get say, Johnson AND Bosh? Still not a title contender, but at least in the mix.

Comments are closed.