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Monday, July 28, 2014

2010-2011 Game Preview: Knicks v. Nets

So I went to the Stats page to do some research for this game and I couldn’t find the Knicks in the Eastern Conference standings.  It took my about a second to realize that I just needed to look up.  I was scanning the bottom of the standings. Old habits die hard I guess.  Yes, the Knicks are in the top half of the Conference standings a month into the season.  How nice is that?

New York (9-9) looks to improve on their 2-5 home record as they host the Nets (6-11).  While the Knicks have found ways to beat weaker teams on the road, they have struggled at home.  Conversely, the Nets have been very bad on the road (2-7) and somewhat better at home (4-4).

Knicks Offense
EFF eFG TO OREB%
109.2 51.2 16.2 25.9
8 9 23 17
Nets Defense
EFF eFG TO OREB%
108.5 48.8 12.4 25.7
20 13 30 15
Knicks Defense
EFF eFG TO OREB%
109.6 51 16 27.8
22 24 11.5 21
Nets Offense
EFF eFG TO OREB%
104.7 48.3 15.4 25
21 22 15 21

A quick look at the Four Factors shows us that the Nets struggle to score.  The Nets play a slow game with only 88.2 possessions per game which is last in the NBA. The Nets are also in the bottom third of the NBA in offensive efficiency (104.7), eFG% (48.3) and OReb% (21).

The Knicks should not take the Nets lightly given their own struggles on the defensive end.  In spite of the Knicks success with defensive stats such as blocks and steals, the team still struggles to keep teams from scoring (109.6 Defensive Eff) and shooting well from the floor ( 51.0 defensive eFG).

What to watch for 1: Brook Lopez.

Over the 6-1 stretch, the Knicks have faced only one post player who is featured on offense, that was Blake Griffin.  I think we all remember what he was able to do against our front line. I’m sure Mozgov recalls.   The Knicks will need to focus on Lopez and prevent him from posting deep. Lopez can score 18.2 /36) but he can be forced into poor shooting nights (44.1 eFg). Lopez is somewhat foul prone (3.7/36) so attacking him on offense is a good way to keep him out of the game.

What to watch for 2: Devin Harris.

The Knicks have had trouble containing quick guards this season and Harris is among the quickest of them all.  Harris is the main cog on offense (18.2 points, 6.8 assists per 36).  Harris loves to get his man off balance on defense then take a mid range jumper or get to the hole.  The Knicks defensive effort should include fighting over screens and force Harris to create offense from deep which is not his comfort zone (0.9 attempts per 36 at 34%).

214 comments on “2010-2011 Game Preview: Knicks v. Nets

  1. Spree8nyk8

    Damn it Al! If your not gonna show up early just to say “firsties!” then you should just show up a bit later. We had a good thing going.

    Now go to your room and think about it.

  2. marxster

    Um, I have a message for the guy who won the Knicks tickets: “if your girlfriend prefers to watch Oprah, I’ll go with you to the game”.

  3. d-mar

    Once again, we have one of these very winnable home games; a loss would really kill a lot of the good will this team has generated by winning on the road. Must get this one, preferably going away.

  4. Spree8nyk8

    Thomas B.: Any “first” posts on my articles will be deleted. Doth sayeth the admin.  

    They can be deleted, but they will still be remembered!

  5. Robert Silverman

    Spree8nyk8: Come to think of it, Maybe Amare’s nickname should be Pow!  

    I so hate those “Jake Stephens, fantasy owner” spots. Boy, Napoleon Dynamite ain’t the star he used to be.

  6. Spree8nyk8

    I think those commercials are pretty funny lol, not as funny as the Sprint commercial with the Doctor and the football player though.

  7. Spree8nyk8

    Kikuchiyo: Moz is about to go Full Drago on Lopez.  

    Be awesome if the Knicks won the championship just so Mozgov could go to the press conference and say “I am great champion! I defeat allllll mannnnnn”

  8. Doug

    totti: dantoni is making lopez an olajuwon.dantoni,
    the greatest coach in nba.
    ah aha ah  

    not his fault Timo made 2 touch fouls on him

  9. BigBlueAL

    Spree8nyk8:
    Be awesome if the Knicks won the championship just so Mozgov could go to the press conference and say “I am great champion!I defeat allllll mannnnnn”  

    “I win for me!! I win for me!!”

  10. Spree8nyk8

    BigBlueAL: People here are still taking stupid shots at D’Antoni??Seriously??  

    Pretty sure they are gonna do it until D’Antoni gets out there and blocks a shot….

  11. Nick C.

    AR not so bad hitting a little jumper with the shot clock running down and later with a block. Maybe just maybe slowly he can come along and contribute.

  12. taggart4800

    Here here!!! He is making the most of a roster with talent but big deficiencies. Cut it for a while!

  13. totti

    yeah, big blue

    definitely. imo he’s bad, very bad.

    and please, ok if you don’t agree,
    but don’t call for stupidity

  14. Nick C.

    As for Lopez he had a pretty good game against Portland and Camby the other so its not as if he sucks, (as long as hes not facing Howard)

  15. Robert Silverman

    Weird half, huh? Can’t tell if the Knicks should be destroying this team or getting blown out

  16. jaylamerique

    Nick C.: As for Lopez he had a pretty good game against Portland and Camby the other so its not as if he sucks, (as long as hes not facing Howard)  

    i think hes a pretty overrated bigman. the guy was on a team that won 12 games as a bigman

  17. Brian Cronin

    Amar’e also is not the brightest guy, either. When you add in Toney Douglas, that’s a whole lot of the Knicks’ top players being kinda dumb. When Turiaf plays, he and Fields helps make up for those guys.

    AR is also a bit dim.

    Felton and Gallo are okay.

  18. Abasi

    (no D) Antoni needs to call timeouts every time the Knicks stop moving the ball and start playing one-man runs at the basket.

    Terrible defense kills the Knicks – they shoot 60% from the field in the first quarter and only 2 points up.

  19. Brian Cronin

    Thing about AR, he took three outside shots, made one (I was shocked he made it). However, they all looked like they were designed plays. So I don’t get it – do I knock AR for taking shots he can’t make if it seems like the coaching staff is okay with him taking those shots?

  20. Brian Cronin

    That’s what you want from Amar’e – the guy is such a brilliant finisher – don’t put him into situations where he has to think, just let him react.

  21. Robert Silverman

    BigBlueAL: Hopefully the Knicks decide to play with some intensity on D in the 2nd half.  

    What do you do about Lopez in the 2nd half? Double? Start Moz?

  22. totti

    Swap the coaches,
    and the knicks would be up 15.

    Can wikileaks provide some files from DW and his rosters?

  23. jaylamerique

    Brian Cronin: Amar’e also is not the brightest guy, either.When you add in Toney Douglas, that’s a whole lot of the Knicks’ top players being kinda dumb. When Turiaf plays, he and Fields helps make up for those guys.
    AR is also a bit dim.Felton and Gallo are okay.  

    you are also forgetting Walker and Moz. those two aren’t the brightest either

  24. Frank O.

    you know, I don’t think Amare is a stupid player. AR, sure. WC, yep.
    But Amare isn’t stupid. He’s one of the more articulate knicks, in fact, maybe one of the more articulate in the NBA.
    He struggled early because he was trying to do too much and was being put in awkward places, but his D is better than anyone expected, and he’s been a very strong leader.
    When he called out the team, it turned out to be effective. Most every player acknowledged its effect.

    So, while I was one of the first to raise the concern about the knicks overall basketball IQ and general intelligence, I’m not sure it’s fair to say that about Amare.
    FWIW

  25. jaylamerique

    totti: Swap the coaches,
    and the knicks would be up 15.Can wikileaks provide some files from DW and his rosters?  

    man, shut up

  26. Brian Cronin

    Vinny G’s into more real acting.

    He actually came off as pretty normal to me (besides that terrible line, which I presume was mostly just a shot as his fellow castmate who did Dancing With the Stars), but what I don’t get is – he’s not one of the famous guys from that show, is he? How does Spike Lee recognize him!?!

  27. Frank O.

    totti: Swap the coaches,
    and the knicks would be up 15.Can wikileaks provide some files from DW and his rosters?  

    *dislike*

  28. Brian Cronin

    Amar’e has never had a good basketball IQ. He’s just gotten by on his great physical skills. Which is fine. It’s not like Shaquille O’Neal ever needed to do much thinking during his prime.

    My brother is a big Phoenix fan, so I’ve been following Amar’e for a long time and he’s never been a bright guy on the court.

    That said, yeah, sure, I should differentiate between “on the court smart” and “off the court smart.” Amar’e seems fine off of the court.

  29. Brian Cronin

    ou are also forgetting Walker and Moz. those two aren’t the brightest either

    Yeah, Walker! Moz seems more incompetent than dumb to me, but yeah, sure, let’s throw him in there.

    When they had the lineup of Walker, Chandler, Douglas, Amare and Randolph out there….holeeeee crap.

  30. Spree8nyk8

    totti: Swap the coaches,
    and the knicks would be up 15.Can wikileaks provide some files from DW and his rosters?  

    We heard ya the first 4 times troll…

  31. d-mar

    Why do we suck so much at home??

    You do not want to see this game go down to the wire, Knicks will be tight and anxious.

  32. jaylamerique

    Brian Cronin:
    Yeah, Walker! Moz seems more incompetent than dumb to me, but yeah, sure, let’s throw him in there.When they had the lineup of Walker, Chandler, Douglas, Amare and Randolph out there….holeeeee crap.  

    pg is the only position you need a thinker on the court at.

  33. Robert Silverman

    jaylamerique:
    pg is the only position you need a thinker on the court at.  

    Watch clips of the 70′s Knicks and tell me if you still think that’s true

  34. Abasi

    I agree – feels like the Knicks will get the job done (every win counts before the brutal stretch beginning by mid-December)

  35. BigBlueAL

    Here comes the obligatory bad start on offense to start the 4th quarter with TD running the point. lol

  36. d-mar

    That’s really funny, I was just gonna post how my son used to make that same stutter step move as Chandler in high school, and the refs called traveling every single time. Too bad he didn’t make it to the NBA!

  37. BigBlueAL

    Felton back in quickly in the 4th again. Have a feeling Knicks will have to trade for a backup PG sometime this season and limit TD to strictly backup SG duties.

  38. Robert Silverman

    Frank O.: Remember Mark Jackson’s tear drop shot?
    Felton has a variation  

    As long as Felton doesn’t start copying Mark Jackson’s shimmy dance, I’m pleased as punch

  39. Robert Silverman

    BigBlueAL:
    Whose shimmy dance was worse, his or Antoine Walker’s????  

    Antoine’s, w/o a doubt. Jax also had that airplane thing that Sanchez/Holmes have been doing recently. All pretty awful

  40. domiknick

    Jake S.: Fields is their best rebounder.  

    Maybe one day Fields can run a practice and give lessons to the team on how to rebound. =P

  41. Nick C.

    I’ll say Felton is the best PG since Mark Jackson as well, tho I’m sure if someone numbercrunched, as distasteful as it may be, the answer could be Towel Head.

  42. ess-dog

    Man if we were hitting our threes this would be a blowout. Also another strong 88% from the charity stripe.
    Chandler with the EZ pass to down the lane.

  43. Frank O.

    BigBlueAL: The pnr between Felton and Amar’e is becoming frighteningly better and better every game.  

    It’s like felton got a clinic on the bounce pass.

  44. Spree8nyk8

    Raise your hand if you thought the Knicks were going to post a winning November after that 6 game losing streak….

  45. ess-dog

    In fact, Wilson’s line tonight is killer: 22 pts, 11 boards, 8-8 from the stripe, 3 blocks, 3 assists… cut out those 4 missed threes, and it’s a stellar game.

  46. Robert Silverman

    Spree8nyk8: Raise your hand if you thought the Knicks were going to post a winning November after that 6 game losing streak….  

    <–hand raised

  47. jaylamerique

    Lopez looks like he comes from the Eddy Curry school for bigmen defense and rebounding.. how the hell does he only have 5 rebounds with the Knicks lack of size

  48. Spree8nyk8

    Frank O.: I wonder where Gallo has gone, however.
    Another disappearing act at home.  

    This is one game where I don’t think that Gallo has actually disappeared, the Knicks are having so much success inside that he’s just not getting hardly any touches. He’s quiet in a not so bad way tonite.

  49. tastycakes

    Missed the past two weeks while out of the country.

    Lots to like tonight! Doesn’t hurt going up against the Inepts, but some real tests right around the corner.

  50. Frank O.

    Clyde is right about one thing: Gaining confidence will help them close out some of those close games against very good teams…

  51. jaylamerique

    ess-dog: What happened to our “deep” bench? 4 guys, 28 minutes, 9 pts, 3 boards, 3 assists…  

    our bench has been pretty much chandler and Td for awhile now. if either arent playing well then we are in trouble

  52. totti

    I’m not negative.
    I want to play in may,
    i want to compete with everyone.
    Nets don’t exist in my mind,
    celtics and lakers are the enemies and they have a lot of bigs…….
    and great coaches.

  53. Spree8nyk8

    Jake S.: Do they have enough cap room to add Melo and a Dalembert or Tyson Chandler next year?  

    Only if they acquire him by trade, they could then get a midlevel exception. But I’m not sure they do that since I’m pretty sure the plan has always been to try for chris paul the next offseason, but if rayray keeps playing the way he is they may try to do something along that lines.

  54. taggart4800

    That is something we all want. But 10 new guys and being above .500 is something the coach ought to be credited for despite the competition. We are beating teams we are supposed to be beating whilst not playing great basketball for solid streches of the game. Apart from some dodgy calls to close out games you have to say D’Antoni is doing a pretty good job. Started to drip feed minutes tonight too. I think judging ourselves against the Celts and Lakers is a little premature and knocking on a guy that has the worst job in the NBA for the last 2 and a bit years is also a little harsh…..

  55. jaylamerique

    totti: I’m not negative.
    I want to play in may,
    i want to compete with everyone.
    Nets don’t exist in my mind,
    celtics and lakers are the enemies and they have a lot of bigs…….
    and great coaches.  

    so you expect us to go from winning 20+ games to competing with the celtics and lakers.. im just hoping for a fun season

  56. Spree8nyk8

    totti: I’m not negative.
    I want to play in may,
    i want to compete with everyone.
    Nets don’t exist in my mind,
    celtics and lakers are the enemies and they have a lot of bigs…….
    and great coaches.  

    Yeah, see the problem is the schedule legally obligated the Knicks to play the Nets tonight, despite you doubting their existence. Therefore, as a fan of the before mentioned Knicks a typical response would be to exude positive responses for said team which can also be defined as “rooting” for said team. And as the season progresses the before mentioned team shall indeed play some of those teams that you do believe in their existence. Oh what a day that will be for you my friend. What a day…

  57. massive

    Jake S.: They should trade for Jason Thompson. He seems to be out of favor in Sacramento.  

    Not too sure about that. He’s back in the starting line-up.

    —-

    Good win for us tonight. We’re above .500 heading into December, and we were able to hold on to a lead at the end.

  58. jaylamerique

    After this game, i honestly think Chandler is one of the most important players on this team. i think he is more valuable then Gallo.

  59. GHenman

    jaylamerique: After this game, i honestly think Chandler is one of the most important players on this team. i think he is more valuable then Gallo.  (Quote)

    Agreed. I think he is very under appreciated.

  60. Robert Silverman

    jaylamerique: After this game, i honestly think Chandler is one of the most important players on this team. i think he is more valuable then Gallo.  

    If the refs let Chandler take 3-4 steps to the hoop every night, sure.

  61. SeeWhyDee77

    Again I say: Who knew Amare’ or Felton would be this good? What a difference havin a true star makes. Even I didn’t think Amare’ would be THIS good without Nash. I was thinkin maybe 20 an 8 simply becuz as the alpha dog he would get alotta touches. But it seems as if every aspect of his game is better than advertised..’cept for ball handling lol. He’s playin good defense, gettin buckets, rebounding better (as of late), and showing leadership qualities that I didn’t think he had. Speaking of leaders..how about Felton? He’s a real PG..see the difference havin one makes? Right now he’s makin plays on top of bein the on-court leader we needed. He’s like a short, fatter, quicker Derek Harper out there…with way more offense than D Harp had in NY. But comparin him to Harper’s not fair..he’s definitely carvin out his own niche. LOL..I bet LB wants to kick the hell outta MJ rite now. I’m pretty sure he’s relatively happy with Augustin, but over the past week I’ve seen why LB told Walsh “I can’t trade his heart”. I actually enjoyed the few minutes AR spent out there tonite 2. I hope that was a stepping stone for him becuz if we can get some consistent play outta him and Rooster, this team is gonna be good. Top 5 in the East good. Maybe even better than Atlanta good. Not that ATL’s an incredible team..but they are certainly the 4th best in the East and head and shoulders above whoever might be 5th best rite now. Side note: watchin Brook Lopez tonite only infuriates me more thinkin about the fact we coulda had a legit 5..but i’m happy with Rooster nonetheless. We problee need his ability to space the floor more at this point considering we have 2 capable bigs in Turiaf and Mosgov. But man…imagine Lopez and Amare’ on the Knicks with Felton….just throw in 2 shooters and that’s 50 wins easy..

  62. JK47

    This was a nice win. We were able to impose our style of play on the slow-as-molasses Nets and racked up 111 points on them. Our offense is really starting to click– we were ranked #7 in offensive rating before this game and I imagine that will go up after this highly efficient offensive performance.

  63. totti

    I see your reasons, taggart
    and i partially agree too.
    Still, the roster is unbalanced
    we depend from turiaf for a decent interior defense and more DW had the fantastic idea to pick this mozgov from nowhere.
    It took 3 years to DW to provide the worst center of the league.
    As for mike, he is paid a lot of money to coach and all his politics is shoot shoot and shoot again.
    No, i’m not confident about the hard schedule coming.
    But guys, if i’m wrong as i hope,
    i take a plane and pay a beer to everyone here.

  64. jaylamerique

    SeeWhyDee77: Side note: watchin Brook Lopez tonite only infuriates me more thinkin about the fact we coulda had a legit 5..but i’m happy with Rooster nonetheless. We problee need his ability to space the floor more at this point considering we have 2 capable bigs in Turiaf and Mosgov. But man…imagine Lopez and Amare’ on the Knicks with Felton….just throw in 2 shooters and that’s 50 wins easy..  

    Lopez has been pretty bad this year. Also if he was on this team, his lack of rebounding and defense for a 7 ft would not sit well with you.

  65. d-mar

    I know how to get Ted Nelson back: “Felton is a much much better PG than Duhon, who lived only by the P and R until the rest of the league figured it out and his game went downhill thereafter because he couldn’t hit a jump shot” Ted? Comment?

  66. Robert Silverman

    Lopez is very impressive in the post. That said, he’s sub-par on defense and the boards, and based on tonight at least, not a good passer out of double teams. In an uptempo system, he’d struggle as well. I have no complaints about the ’06 draft

  67. jaylamerique

    d-mar: I know how to get Ted Nelson back: “Felton is a much much better PG than Duhon, who lived only by the P and R until the rest of the league figured it out and his game went downhill thereafter because he couldn’t hit a jump shot” Ted? Comment?  

    yah, what happened to Ted. I cant believe you guys drove this guy out of this board.

  68. JK47

    Brook Lopez has been shooting with the efficiency of Jamal Crawford and rebounding at the rate of Eddy Curry. I wouldn’t want Lopez as the cornerstone of my team, I’ll tell you that.

  69. totti

    i put to your attention the only positive fact of the night:
    will and gallo begin to share the ball each other.
    This may convince DW that we don’t really need melo and help him to make the right trade to get us better. A 2? A 5? A first pass backup pg?

  70. SeeWhyDee77

    d-mar: I know how to get Ted Nelson back: “Felton is a much much better PG than Duhon, who lived only by the P and R until the rest of the league figured it out and his game went downhill thereafter because he couldn’t hit a jump shot” Ted? Comment?  

    sorry..my lol was for that..I forgot 2 click quote.
    RE: Lopez..his defense and rebounding may not be stellar, but statistically look at what he’s done with no help in Jersey..U hafta think he’d be better with more than just Devin Harris. But I was only speakin hypothetically because I too am happy with our 06 haul. Practically half the draft is or already been on our roster. Walker, Giddens, Randolph, Rooster. Besides with Stat out there Rooster is more important than Lopez.

  71. latke

    taggart4800: I think judging ourselves against the Celts and Lakers is a little premature and knocking on a guy that has the worst job in the NBA for the last 2 and a bit years is also a little harsh….

    Hey, the Lake Show lost again tonight, this time to Memphis. Derek Fisher got schooled by, of all people, Mike Conley. Can’t wait for Fisher to be out of the league, the no-talent schlub.

    Knicks played well tonight, and it was nice to see all those easy baskets, but we do have to remember that Lopez and Farmar are terrible defensively, and a lot of those easy baskets came from their deficiencies.

    Friday at New Orleans will be another opportunity (the atlanta loss being the only other) to prove that we can compete against good teams. Hopefully we will have Turiaf back because we will need him. If we can win that game, it will make me a believer.

  72. Mulligan

    Fellas, we have a better record than Houston, Phoenix and Golden State (not to mention Charlotte and Milwaukee). It might not last, but it feels pretty good for right now. Also, we’re only a half game behind Miami! One disconcerting stat is that our point differential is +.2. That’s not so great.

    What do people make of Indiana? Are they for real? I haven’t caught any of their games yet, but they’re definitely starting to impress some folks..

  73. Z-man

    At least we are back to the living after a 3-8 start. I am loving every minute, but the Atlanta game clearly showed that we shouldn’t get too carried away yet. We have taken care of business against the teams we needed to beat, but that has only made up for the inexcusable losses we endured during the 6-game L streak.

    Still, all signs are pointing up. Gotta love it. In a way, Amar’e reminds me of Ewing, sensational player with some flaws but who brings it every single minute of every single game. Felton has flaws too but he has big giant brass cohones. Chandler and Gallo are YOUNG and very explosive, if inconsistent. Fields, what can you say?

    Sure wish Mozgov would step up. He’s really playing poorly.

  74. TheRant

    Just got back from the game. It was nice to see it live and there was a lot to appreciate. Especially (as has been mentioned) how mature and effective Wilson Chandler has become. Landry Fields also did some really great things that won’t even show up in the stats but continue to impress me. And I know we all expected it, but it is nice to say that Amare is turning out to be what we paid for (and even Miami can’t say that).

    Gallo was off, but nice that we can win when one player is off (even though the Nets should be very beatable). How many years did we watch the Knicks lose to sucky teams a day after beating a champion. Now we are beating the teams we need to beat.

    We still have big holes — center is the obvious one. (Amare is so much a 4 not a 5 and without Turiaf I tremble at how we will fare over the next month.) But we also have fat Eddy’s contract and some cap space to plug those holes. And we are looking better at the 1 and the 2 than anyone thought we would.

    I’m feeling good and patient and thankful for Walsh and DAntoni’s guidance. It feels nice to say it.

  75. Z

    Just finished watching the game (and enjoyed reading the thread comments!).

    I think this was a big win, regardless of the opponent, for two major reasons: 1) Chandler was the Wilson Chandler we’ve all hoped he’d become– turning down 3 contested 3 pointers and walking (literally) to the rim; and 2) the Pick and Roll! It was as if Felton read Pick & Rolls for Dummies on the toilet before the game.

    Yes, it was the woeful Nets, but there’s no reason why those two aspects of the game (that were so obviously killing the Knicks during the losing streak) won’t translate to games against quality opponents.

  76. latke

    can someone explain to me why the Wall Street Journal refers to the players with honorifics? Is this normal?

    “With Mr. Stoudemire at center, the 6-foot-8 Mr. Chandler performed admirably at power forward. He grabbed a team-leading 11 rebounds. Mr. D’Antoni said he is hopeful that Mr. Turiaf will be back on Friday when the Knicks play in New Orleans.

    “We’ll get Turiaf back and right now Timmy’s going through an adjustment period,” Mr. D’Antoni said. “He went through three months where he couldn’t drop the ball. Now he can’t catch it.”

    The Nets got some bad injury news of their own. On a Mr. Chandler drive in the third, Nets point guard Devin Harris fell to the ground in pain with a left knee injury. After a few minutes, he limped off to the locker room and did not return.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704679204575647520766170154.html

  77. Robert Silverman

    latke: can someone explain to me why the Wall Street Journal refers to the players with honorifics?Is this normal?“With Mr. Stoudemire at center, the 6-foot-8 Mr. Chandler performed admirably at power forward. He grabbed a team-leading 11 rebounds. Mr. D’Antoni said he is hopeful that Mr. Turiaf will be back on Friday when the Knicks play in New Orleans.“We’ll get Turiaf back and right now Timmy’s going through an adjustment period,” Mr. D’Antoni said. “He went through three months where he couldn’t drop the ball. Now he can’t catch it.”The Nets got some bad injury news of their own. On a Mr. Chandler drive in the third, Nets point guard Devin Harris fell to the ground in pain with a left knee injury. After a few minutes, he limped off to the locker room and did not return.”http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704679204575647520766170154.html  

    Because it’s a paper read by 75 year old white men.

  78. Spree8nyk8

    Good god the Knicks get no love from Hollinger, at 10-9 the Knicks are 17th in his poll behind 6-10 Charlotte and Milwaukee and 8-10 Memphis. Charlotte moved up 3 spots after losing 3 out of 4 games and Milwaukee is 4-6 in their last ten. I really don’t understand how his math is done, because Hollingers list updates daily not weekly. So this result is counting the Knicks W and their L’s.

    Weird.

  79. Spree8nyk8

    Mulligan: One disconcerting stat is that our point differential is +.2. That’s not so great..  

    Actually it’s quite good, the Knicks were huge negative after that 6 game skid (maybe 3 or 4 points negative), so to turn that into a positive stat that quickly is impressive. It was -.4 going into last nights game.

  80. Brian Cronin

    Good god the Knicks get no love from Hollinger, at 10-9 the Knicks are 17th in his poll behind 6-10 Charlotte and Milwaukee and 8-10 Memphis. Charlotte moved up 3 spots after losing 3 out of 4 games and Milwaukee is 4-6 in their last ten. I really don’t understand how his math is done, because Hollingers list updates daily not weekly. So this result is counting the Knicks W and their L’s.

    Weird.

    Presumably it is all strength of schedule, right? Hollinger stresses the last 10 games and in the last 10 games, the Knicks have only played two good teams (Denver and Atlanta) – and they lost to both of them. Charlotte beat the one good team they faced in their last 10 (Phoenix, who was considered “good” at the time, although they obviously have fallen since) and they beat them badly, which also counts for a lot in Hollinger’s system (he rewards point differential a lot). Memphis just beat the Lakers last night and also beat Miami in their last 10. You’ll note that the points in the system for all three teams are very close. Once the Phoenix game is no longer in Charlotte’s last 10 games, you’ll see them take a hit and the Knicks likely will pass them.

    Beating a good team like the Hornets on Friday, though, would do wonders for their Hollinger Power Rankings.

    Do note, though, that Hollinger currently has them ahead of Charlotte in Playoff Odds (barely, but still!).

  81. rama

    I am as interested in the Hollinger Power Rankings as I was in his opinion that Fields was a terrible pick.

    Z: Stat of the night: Amar’e Stoudemire: 41 minutes, 1 turnover.  (Quote)

    Yes sir!

    totti: …the right trade to get us better. A 2? A 5? A first pass backup pg?  (Quote)

    I don’t think we should consider trading for a 2 because A) Landry Fields – have you noticed him? He’s our rookie off-guard who ranks at the top of the league in various statistical categories, and B) Azubuke was at worst an effective player, a great 3-ball shooter and solid defender. Really, the 5 is our only weakness — or will be if Buke comes back OK and Moz continues to struggle.

    But, newsflash: we arenot going to beat NO. And it isn’t the end of the world – OUR 10 NEW PLAYERS STILL HAVEN’T PLAYED 20 GAMES TOGETHER!!

  82. d-mar

    Leave it to that a-hole Mitch Lawrence to put a damper on the Knicks win (although I get it that he’s a Nets fan) His startling point (and he’s echoing Prokhorov) – the Nets need to try to be more like the Lakers, not the Knicks. Wow, what an original mindset – we want to be like the team that’s won 2 championships in a row and is line for a 3rd, what a slap in the face to the Knicks! I don’t know why I read this guy, he just gets me really aggravated.

  83. Frank

    Anyone think Ray Ray deserves an All-Star nod (assuming he doesn’t fall off the earth with his play over the next month)?

    Looking at the eastern conference ballot, I can’t find more than 3-4 other guards that deserve a spot more than he does:

    - Rondo and Rose are locks.
    - Wade will get it even though he stinks this year so far.
    - Who else? Joe Johnson and his 41% FG% and 25% from 3?
    Vince? Jennings? Felton has dominated him in every stat category except TOs. Nelson’s a nice player but Felton’s been better than him. Wall’s been impressive for a rook but he’s missed almost half the season with various injuries.

    Raymond Felton, (deserving) All-Star! Ted would be sick.

  84. TheRant

    rama: I am as interested in the Hollinger Power Rankings as I was in his opinion that Fields was a terrible pick.

    Is there anyone who can research the written opinions of Landry Fields for the day or two after the draft? That’d be a fun read.

  85. TheRant

    Frank: Vince? Jennings? Felton has dominated him in every stat category except TOs. Nelson’s a nice player but Felton’s been better than him. Wall’s been impressive for a rook but he’s missed almost half the season with various injuries.

    It’s too bad the all-star balloting is so much about name recognition.

    I would bet people nominate a crappy Vince Carter over a quality Felton or Jennings. After all, they did this with Shaq and others even when Shaq wasn’t playing all star worthy ball.

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