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		<title>By: ess-dog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say our chances of getting Wade/Lebron are a combined %10 at this point.  Therefore I propose this trade:

NYK gets:
Gerald Wallace, Sean May, #12 pick

Charlotte gets:
Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, #8 pick

Charlotte picks S. Curry, we pick Flynn/Maynor/Lawson

We can still sign Lee and a big free agent in 2010, but still have a hole at shooting guard for another year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say our chances of getting Wade/Lebron are a combined %10 at this point.  Therefore I propose this trade:</p>
<p>NYK gets:<br />
Gerald Wallace, Sean May, #12 pick</p>
<p>Charlotte gets:<br />
Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, #8 pick</p>
<p>Charlotte picks S. Curry, we pick Flynn/Maynor/Lawson</p>
<p>We can still sign Lee and a big free agent in 2010, but still have a hole at shooting guard for another year.</p>
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		<title>By: daaarn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hell, it&#039;s worth taking on Jaric just so we can get Adriana Lima in a courtside seat lol. But yeah, I can&#039;t wait for the day when the Grizzlies move again. Seattle deserves to have a team again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, it&#8217;s worth taking on Jaric just so we can get Adriana Lima in a courtside seat lol. But yeah, I can&#8217;t wait for the day when the Grizzlies move again. Seattle deserves to have a team again.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With some help from Rubio and his agent maybe we could swing a deal:

Chandler, Q, and the #8 for Marko and the #2

or

Lee and #8 for Darko and #2

or

Harrington, Chandler, Jeffries, and #8 for Darko and Marko and the #2

It&#039;s probably worth taking on salary (Jaric) to get a top-pick. Deal him later, or just wait until 2011 while Rubio develops. Anything to get a franchise player at this point...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With some help from Rubio and his agent maybe we could swing a deal:</p>
<p>Chandler, Q, and the #8 for Marko and the #2</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>Lee and #8 for Darko and #2</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>Harrington, Chandler, Jeffries, and #8 for Darko and Marko and the #2</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably worth taking on salary (Jaric) to get a top-pick. Deal him later, or just wait until 2011 while Rubio develops. Anything to get a franchise player at this point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TDM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caleb - looks like your speculation that Rubio wouldn&#039;t want to play for Memphis is correct.  For what its worth, I also read that the Clips are open to trading out of the first spot - and - Chicago is looking to trade Tyrus.

From DraftExpress:

&quot;From what people around the league are saying, Rubio’s camp may already be sending out feelers indicating that he’s not interested in the least bit in playing in Memphis. 

“Rubio doesn’t want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so. Fegan [Rubio’s agent] wants him in L.A., and if he can’t have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City. “ 

Unlike Griffin or Hasheem Thabeet, who don’t really have any choice where they will play next season if a team decides to play hardball, Rubio has a reasonably attractive alternative option at his disposal—returning to Spain. 

“He’ll pull out if he doesn’t like what he’s hearing,” the NBA source tells us. “Or he can stay in and force the Grizzlies to call his bluff—would they really take him knowing that he may never come over? That’s one way to get him to fall to three.”

Fegan is already highly experienced in these matters, having unsuccessfully attempted to navigate fellow client Yi Jianlian towards the team of his choice in the 2007 draft, only to see Milwaukee foil his plans and pick him anyway. This time, though, he has a lot more leverage, as Rubio would likely have no problem staying in Badalona for another year or two or more if push came to shove. His buyout after all, is yet to be resolved, which in this case may actually be an advantage.

The Grizzlies are clearly aware of the politics surrounding their pick, but do not appear to be in any rush to make any decisions. “We’ll talk about all those things when they come up,” their General Manager Chris Wallace told us. “Right now we’re still in evaluation mode. We haven’t had any conversations with him [Rubio] or anyone else in his camp.” 

Wallace shared that he will be headed out to Spain this weekend to watch Rubio compete in game three of the ACB playoffs, where Joventut will try to advance to the semifinals with a road win over Real Madrid. “I sent someone out there last week to watch him in the playoffs just in case we were able to move up,” Wallace told us. “He’s hardly a sleeper and he hasn’t been very difficult to track. We feel very comfortable with what we know about him right now.”

When asked whether Mike Conley’s status as Memphis’ tentative starter will deter the Grizzlies from selecting another point guard, Wallace indicated that that won’t be a factor. “We’re not in a position to be drafting for need. We’re going to go after the biggest talent available, whether that’s a big man or a point guard or whatever.” 

What might make the most sense on paper would be for the Clippers and Grizzlies to work out a trade in which Memphis could take Griffin and Los Angeles would get Rubio. For that to happen, Memphis would have to part with one of their core assets, likely Rudy Gay. Obviously we’ll have to stay tuned, because as John Hollinger correctly indicated in his latest column last night’s lottery left more questions than answers for the teams drafting in the top 5.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb &#8211; looks like your speculation that Rubio wouldn&#8217;t want to play for Memphis is correct.  For what its worth, I also read that the Clips are open to trading out of the first spot &#8211; and &#8211; Chicago is looking to trade Tyrus.</p>
<p>From DraftExpress:</p>
<p>&#8220;From what people around the league are saying, Rubio’s camp may already be sending out feelers indicating that he’s not interested in the least bit in playing in Memphis. </p>
<p>“Rubio doesn’t want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so. Fegan [Rubio’s agent] wants him in L.A., and if he can’t have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City. “ </p>
<p>Unlike Griffin or Hasheem Thabeet, who don’t really have any choice where they will play next season if a team decides to play hardball, Rubio has a reasonably attractive alternative option at his disposal—returning to Spain. </p>
<p>“He’ll pull out if he doesn’t like what he’s hearing,” the NBA source tells us. “Or he can stay in and force the Grizzlies to call his bluff—would they really take him knowing that he may never come over? That’s one way to get him to fall to three.”</p>
<p>Fegan is already highly experienced in these matters, having unsuccessfully attempted to navigate fellow client Yi Jianlian towards the team of his choice in the 2007 draft, only to see Milwaukee foil his plans and pick him anyway. This time, though, he has a lot more leverage, as Rubio would likely have no problem staying in Badalona for another year or two or more if push came to shove. His buyout after all, is yet to be resolved, which in this case may actually be an advantage.</p>
<p>The Grizzlies are clearly aware of the politics surrounding their pick, but do not appear to be in any rush to make any decisions. “We’ll talk about all those things when they come up,” their General Manager Chris Wallace told us. “Right now we’re still in evaluation mode. We haven’t had any conversations with him [Rubio] or anyone else in his camp.” </p>
<p>Wallace shared that he will be headed out to Spain this weekend to watch Rubio compete in game three of the ACB playoffs, where Joventut will try to advance to the semifinals with a road win over Real Madrid. “I sent someone out there last week to watch him in the playoffs just in case we were able to move up,” Wallace told us. “He’s hardly a sleeper and he hasn’t been very difficult to track. We feel very comfortable with what we know about him right now.”</p>
<p>When asked whether Mike Conley’s status as Memphis’ tentative starter will deter the Grizzlies from selecting another point guard, Wallace indicated that that won’t be a factor. “We’re not in a position to be drafting for need. We’re going to go after the biggest talent available, whether that’s a big man or a point guard or whatever.” </p>
<p>What might make the most sense on paper would be for the Clippers and Grizzlies to work out a trade in which Memphis could take Griffin and Los Angeles would get Rubio. For that to happen, Memphis would have to part with one of their core assets, likely Rudy Gay. Obviously we’ll have to stay tuned, because as John Hollinger correctly indicated in his latest column last night’s lottery left more questions than answers for the teams drafting in the top 5.<br />
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see your point, Frank. Their TS%s are also somewhat similar, besides Curry&#039;s sophmore season when his was 64.4. 

The level of play probably offsets this a little, but Curry&#039;s &quot;peripheral stats&quot; (assists, rebounds, steals) are not at all comparable to Redick&#039;s. These are often used as a proxy for on-court athleticism. Redick is sort of a borderline NBA player with one NBA skill (outside shooting) and a good basketball IQ, but mediocre athleticism. If Curry can shoot like Redick plus has the athleticism/skill to run the point at least part time, be a more versatile scorer, defend PGs, and rebound alright for his size I think he&#039;ll be a decent NBA player. Similar to the type of guards LeBron loves: Mo Williams, Delonte West, Daniel Gibson... 

My biggest concern with Curry is how long it will take him to adjust to the NBA. He&#039;s not an amazing athlete by NBA standards and coming from a lower level of competition (although facing triple-teams might offset that). Hopefully he can come in behind Duhon, Hughes, etc. as a rookie and hit the NBA three, then develop the rest of his game over time. Nash would obviously be the best case, but a sort of less athletic Barbosa/Nate wouldn&#039;t be bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see your point, Frank. Their TS%s are also somewhat similar, besides Curry&#8217;s sophmore season when his was 64.4. </p>
<p>The level of play probably offsets this a little, but Curry&#8217;s &#8220;peripheral stats&#8221; (assists, rebounds, steals) are not at all comparable to Redick&#8217;s. These are often used as a proxy for on-court athleticism. Redick is sort of a borderline NBA player with one NBA skill (outside shooting) and a good basketball IQ, but mediocre athleticism. If Curry can shoot like Redick plus has the athleticism/skill to run the point at least part time, be a more versatile scorer, defend PGs, and rebound alright for his size I think he&#8217;ll be a decent NBA player. Similar to the type of guards LeBron loves: Mo Williams, Delonte West, Daniel Gibson&#8230; </p>
<p>My biggest concern with Curry is how long it will take him to adjust to the NBA. He&#8217;s not an amazing athlete by NBA standards and coming from a lower level of competition (although facing triple-teams might offset that). Hopefully he can come in behind Duhon, Hughes, etc. as a rookie and hit the NBA three, then develop the rest of his game over time. Nash would obviously be the best case, but a sort of less athletic Barbosa/Nate wouldn&#8217;t be bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sort of caught up in the Stephen Curry mystique but these numbers make me a little nervous:

Season	GP	MPG	PPG	FG%	3FG%	FT%	APG	RPG	BPG	SPG
2005-2006	36	37.1	26.8	47.0	42.1	86.3	2.6	2.0	0.1	1.4

Season	GP	MPG	PPG	FG%	3FG%	FT%	APG	RPG	BPG	SPG
2008-2009	34	33.7	28.7	45.4	38.7	87.6	5.6	4.4	0.2    2.5

Top season is JJ Redick who came out with a lot of the same scouting reports as Curry but with scarily similar numbers playing in a MUCH better conference. Bottom season is Curry. Granted, Redick probably wasn&#039;t getting triple-teamed every possession.   They&#039;re about the same size (actually Redick is bigger).  I guess maybe Curry has a better handle?

I think if Walshtoni&#039;s plan is to draft him to play PG then it&#039;s a good pick -- he&#039;d be no worse a defender than Nash -- although I don&#039;t know at all if he has the same court vision and passing ability as Nash.  But if he&#039;s planning to play him at the 2... we got problems.

Or maybe the plan is to recruit as many of Lebron&#039;s favorites to NYC as possible (CC Sabathia, Curry, etc.)...

Here&#039;s to hoping that Orlando takes down Cleveland!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of caught up in the Stephen Curry mystique but these numbers make me a little nervous:</p>
<p>Season	GP	MPG	PPG	FG%	3FG%	FT%	APG	RPG	BPG	SPG<br />
2005-2006	36	37.1	26.8	47.0	42.1	86.3	2.6	2.0	0.1	1.4</p>
<p>Season	GP	MPG	PPG	FG%	3FG%	FT%	APG	RPG	BPG	SPG<br />
2008-2009	34	33.7	28.7	45.4	38.7	87.6	5.6	4.4	0.2    2.5</p>
<p>Top season is JJ Redick who came out with a lot of the same scouting reports as Curry but with scarily similar numbers playing in a MUCH better conference. Bottom season is Curry. Granted, Redick probably wasn&#8217;t getting triple-teamed every possession.   They&#8217;re about the same size (actually Redick is bigger).  I guess maybe Curry has a better handle?</p>
<p>I think if Walshtoni&#8217;s plan is to draft him to play PG then it&#8217;s a good pick &#8212; he&#8217;d be no worse a defender than Nash &#8212; although I don&#8217;t know at all if he has the same court vision and passing ability as Nash.  But if he&#8217;s planning to play him at the 2&#8230; we got problems.</p>
<p>Or maybe the plan is to recruit as many of Lebron&#8217;s favorites to NYC as possible (CC Sabathia, Curry, etc.)&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to hoping that Orlando takes down Cleveland!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im still not sold on Blair. Not that I dont like him but for us at the 8th pick Im taking Curry. If we do in fact get Curry its going to be so much fun to watch. The kid is just a good player. Good character. Great feel good story. Its would just be fun. Im also hearing that  number of teams are looking to deal or sell their late first rounders. New Orleans, OKC, Portland. I think the Knicks need to buy up some of these picks and we would be able to build depth. Getting the extra first rounder this year would make me forget about us not having a pick in next years draft. Although, I still think we need to address that situation. Hopefully Donnie is staying active on the lines because I know Sam Presti will be . Theres no reason he should be able to swing some deals and we cant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im still not sold on Blair. Not that I dont like him but for us at the 8th pick Im taking Curry. If we do in fact get Curry its going to be so much fun to watch. The kid is just a good player. Good character. Great feel good story. Its would just be fun. Im also hearing that  number of teams are looking to deal or sell their late first rounders. New Orleans, OKC, Portland. I think the Knicks need to buy up some of these picks and we would be able to build depth. Getting the extra first rounder this year would make me forget about us not having a pick in next years draft. Although, I still think we need to address that situation. Hopefully Donnie is staying active on the lines because I know Sam Presti will be . Theres no reason he should be able to swing some deals and we cant.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that anyone cares, but I am softening a bit on Curry.  Mainly because one of my friends who is usually wrong about the NBA doesn&#039;t like him, so I figure he can&#039;t be that bad.  Certainly, we&#039;ll know he can knock down 3&#039;s.  I am guessing if we draft Curry, that probably closes the door on Nate?  Unless they think Steph can handle major minutes at the 1.  I know he shifted there last year, but this ain&#039;t the Southern conference.

Like Blair a lot.  He&#039;s gonna be a player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that anyone cares, but I am softening a bit on Curry.  Mainly because one of my friends who is usually wrong about the NBA doesn&#8217;t like him, so I figure he can&#8217;t be that bad.  Certainly, we&#8217;ll know he can knock down 3&#8242;s.  I am guessing if we draft Curry, that probably closes the door on Nate?  Unless they think Steph can handle major minutes at the 1.  I know he shifted there last year, but this ain&#8217;t the Southern conference.</p>
<p>Like Blair a lot.  He&#8217;s gonna be a player.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NBA rules don&#039;t let Memphis pay the buyout.  I really have a hard time seeing Rubio pay $8 million for the privilege of being drafted by the NBA&#039;s worst or second-worst franchise. If he can&#039;t cut a deal for a trade, he could stay in Europe another year. 

I&#039;d like to be contrarian but have to agree that Lawson and Curry would be good picks. Lawson was a lottery prospect, pass-first point guard his first two years but this year improved his shooting and scoring to the point where the #s are ridiculous. His game is perfect for the modern NBA, where quick little PGs can flourish. I only worry about the durability.

James Harden reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon - lot of hype, then the backlash &quot;not athletic, not consistent, yada yada&quot; - but they are pretty similar players. Size, style, everything. Harden gets to the line almost twice as often as the other top guards, a lot like Gordon did in college. At #8 in this draft, would be a good value if he slips. 

Jrue Holliday is interesting - a year ago, would probably have been a top-5 pick out of H.S. - but his #s at UCLA really weren&#039;t good. You could say the same about Earl Clark - huge potential, in theory, but didn&#039;t produce at that elite level. But young enough, and productive ENOUGH, that you could imagine him blowing up. Clark reminds me some of Anthony Randolph.

Some of the other super-athletic prospects look like busts in waiting. I&#039;m thinking of Demar DeRozan and Tyreke Evans, although Evans  looks a bit better. At least he rebounds and plays defense. He&#039;ll be a straight 2-guard in the pros, so I don&#039;t worry that he can&#039;t play the point. Terence Williams actually put up terrific numbers as a swingman - I&#039;d pick him top-20, maybe late lottery, no question. 

I won&#039;t rehash my Thabeet and Blair opinions, but I guess I&#039;d be ok with either at #8. Blair, more. If we could trade down and grab him later, fantastic. 

Here are the teams with multiple picks. Maybe there&#039;s one to spare:  
Minnesota: 6, 18, 28
Memphis: 2, 27
OKC: 3, 25
Sacramento: 4, 23
Chicago: 16, 26]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBA rules don&#8217;t let Memphis pay the buyout.  I really have a hard time seeing Rubio pay $8 million for the privilege of being drafted by the NBA&#8217;s worst or second-worst franchise. If he can&#8217;t cut a deal for a trade, he could stay in Europe another year. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to be contrarian but have to agree that Lawson and Curry would be good picks. Lawson was a lottery prospect, pass-first point guard his first two years but this year improved his shooting and scoring to the point where the #s are ridiculous. His game is perfect for the modern NBA, where quick little PGs can flourish. I only worry about the durability.</p>
<p>James Harden reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon &#8211; lot of hype, then the backlash &#8220;not athletic, not consistent, yada yada&#8221; &#8211; but they are pretty similar players. Size, style, everything. Harden gets to the line almost twice as often as the other top guards, a lot like Gordon did in college. At #8 in this draft, would be a good value if he slips. </p>
<p>Jrue Holliday is interesting &#8211; a year ago, would probably have been a top-5 pick out of H.S. &#8211; but his #s at UCLA really weren&#8217;t good. You could say the same about Earl Clark &#8211; huge potential, in theory, but didn&#8217;t produce at that elite level. But young enough, and productive ENOUGH, that you could imagine him blowing up. Clark reminds me some of Anthony Randolph.</p>
<p>Some of the other super-athletic prospects look like busts in waiting. I&#8217;m thinking of Demar DeRozan and Tyreke Evans, although Evans  looks a bit better. At least he rebounds and plays defense. He&#8217;ll be a straight 2-guard in the pros, so I don&#8217;t worry that he can&#8217;t play the point. Terence Williams actually put up terrific numbers as a swingman &#8211; I&#8217;d pick him top-20, maybe late lottery, no question. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t rehash my Thabeet and Blair opinions, but I guess I&#8217;d be ok with either at #8. Blair, more. If we could trade down and grab him later, fantastic. </p>
<p>Here are the teams with multiple picks. Maybe there&#8217;s one to spare:<br />
Minnesota: 6, 18, 28<br />
Memphis: 2, 27<br />
OKC: 3, 25<br />
Sacramento: 4, 23<br />
Chicago: 16, 26</p>
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		<title>By: d-mar</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was hoping against hope we&#039;d somehow move into the top 3, but once picks 14-9 went according to plan, I knew we had no chance. I still find it really hard to swallow that the Bulls got the #1 with a 1.7% chance last year, that&#039;s exactly the kind of flat out luck our franchise needed this year. 

I think some are really undervaluing Lawson, I guess because of his size. I think he will be a very solid NBA PG a la Jameer Nelson, which I believe justifies a top 10 pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping against hope we&#8217;d somehow move into the top 3, but once picks 14-9 went according to plan, I knew we had no chance. I still find it really hard to swallow that the Bulls got the #1 with a 1.7% chance last year, that&#8217;s exactly the kind of flat out luck our franchise needed this year. </p>
<p>I think some are really undervaluing Lawson, I guess because of his size. I think he will be a very solid NBA PG a la Jameer Nelson, which I believe justifies a top 10 pick.</p>
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