Comments on: 2008 Thread: Bulls at Knicks 11/24/2007

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:50:36 +0000

I dunno, sean, Andre Miller has got to be a big step up from what the Knicks currently have at the point.

That being said, I am not THAT crazy about him. I’m all for trading for him if it can be done on the cheap, but if it is even relatively painful, I say no.

By: sean

sean — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:55:55 +0000

Don’t we remember Miller In LA when he had all that Talent around him lol talk about Marbury not making players around him better. An how about the great job he did in Denver lol. Come on guys lets cut it out

By: Hudson River

Hudson River — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:18:04 +0000

He’s a pass first point-guard and his prime target, Andre Iguodala is moaning and complaining for his contract and not playing hard. The rest of his team is horrible, like the aforementioned Willie Green. How can he be expected to play well? He has showed throughout his career he can play, and never really relied on his athleticism so I don’t see a major drop off.

What if we took him,a second round pick and Samuel Dalembert for Eddy Curry, Jared Jefferies and Wilson Chandler?

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:09:49 +0000

By the way, I am astonished at how good Louis Williams is.

I had NO clue that he could play at this level in the NBA.

It is astonishing.

Anyhow, yeah, obviously, I think all of us would like Andre Miller, but I can’t see how the Knicks could get him withOUT trading either Balkman, Lee or a pick – and in THAT case, I’d just as soon let him go.

By: Duff Soviet Union

Duff Soviet Union — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:22:12 +0000

Hudson River; 1) Miller has not been very good this year and is at the age where he might have hit a wall. 2) If the 76ers want to play Louis Williams more (as they should), why don’t they just give him Willie Green’s minutes? God, that guy is terrible.

By: Hudson River

Hudson River — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:33:35 +0000

I just got glorious glorious vision of the knick’s short-term savior: Andre Miller. Supposedly the Sixers want to play Louis Williams more, and want to unload Miller’s contract to give AI2 the contract he wants.

If the Knicks got him I would be overjoyed as long as the trade didn’t include: Our first round draft pick, David Lee, Renaldo Balkman, Nate Robinson and Mardy Collins.

On the other hand, major con is the Knicks might win some games so Isiah could stay for at least another year…I don’t know if its worth it.

By: jon abbey

jon abbey — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:17:13 +0000

yeah, Randolph was awful yesterday until he hit those two late shots.

By: Owen

Owen — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:54:14 +0000

It was Ben R who made that point Brian, although I think the high usage low usage distinction got a lot of play in the Kobe-Lee thread.

Until Randolph gets his ts% within 10% of Lee I don’t even want to hear a discussion. Zach Randolph has a ts% of 45%! And he is committing turnovers at a very high rate. In the last game he took 16 shots, 13 free throws, and committed 6 turnovers. He “used” 28.5 possessions, and produced 20 points. That’s horrible. League average is more than a point per possession.

And since when is getting to the foul line a bad thing. Well, maybe it is if you go 6-13 like Randolph did against the Bulls, but it’s a great thing when you are shooting 86% from the line.

People love to watch Zach shoot, but he has been killing us on offense…

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:43:18 +0000

As someone pointed out so nicely (Marc R.? Ted?), Randolph is a very good high usage player, but he is absolutely LOST on the Knicks who already HAVE a high usage player in Curry that, so far this season, has been playing better than Randolph, leaving Randolph without much of a role to fill.

Lee, meanwhile, is his typical very good low usage playing self.

By: STEVE

STEVE — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:36:29 +0000

Randolph is a better player than Lee; no way Lee hits 1 minute clutch shots like that. The Knicks need Curry and Randolph on the floor together at the end of close games, because Curry demands a double team and Randolph can get one on one coverage like yesterday’s game. They have played together for exactly 12 games; How many games were lost last year when Curry was triple teamed and Lee, Balkman, Collins, Jeffries etc. were tossing bricks. As seen with the Bulls, when the perimeter players shoot poorly, the team loses.
A few clutch buckets like Zachs against Miami, the Clippers and Kings and the Knicks are 6 and 6.
Balkman needs more minutes; he can be a great one on one defender.