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		<title>By: jonestr</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-144120</link>
		<dc:creator>jonestr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you retain a players rights unless you bring them to training camp and then cut them, which it seems like that would be the case with Jordan. If so I dont think the Knicks can just let him go to europe now that they have brought him to camp and then be able to bring him around next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you retain a players rights unless you bring them to training camp and then cut them, which it seems like that would be the case with Jordan. If so I dont think the Knicks can just let him go to europe now that they have brought him to camp and then be able to bring him around next year.</p>
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		<title>By: dave crockett</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142686</link>
		<dc:creator>dave crockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to be so late on my comments here. I didn&#039;t see the Maccabi game but the SI snippet Owen posted is intriguing as it dovetails a bit with something I saw re: Randolph. 

I was actually pleasantly surprised by how active Randolph was in the opener vs. Philly. He moves quite a bit. He certainly wasn&#039;t dogging it in the game I saw. He was playing hard. I think there may be something to his having poor defensive instincts. I didn&#039;t see a lack of defensive effort. I saw a guy with a knack for being in the wrong place at the wrong time--poor anticipation that leaves him reaching a lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be so late on my comments here. I didn&#8217;t see the Maccabi game but the SI snippet Owen posted is intriguing as it dovetails a bit with something I saw re: Randolph. </p>
<p>I was actually pleasantly surprised by how active Randolph was in the opener vs. Philly. He moves quite a bit. He certainly wasn&#8217;t dogging it in the game I saw. He was playing hard. I think there may be something to his having poor defensive instincts. I didn&#8217;t see a lack of defensive effort. I saw a guy with a knack for being in the wrong place at the wrong time&#8211;poor anticipation that leaves him reaching a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: retropkid</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142654</link>
		<dc:creator>retropkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice concise insights Mike, thank you.  Agree with all, with the small exception of Malik Rose...I don&#039;t think he is long for the Knicks, he won&#039;t get much PT on this team but could still be a strong role players for a title contender, ironically, if he can get the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice concise insights Mike, thank you.  Agree with all, with the small exception of Malik Rose&#8230;I don&#8217;t think he is long for the Knicks, he won&#8217;t get much PT on this team but could still be a strong role players for a title contender, ironically, if he can get the time.</p>
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		<title>By: NYKBallerfan</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142647</link>
		<dc:creator>NYKBallerfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Knick offense, aka the Quick, seemed to be more fluid. There were some good give &amp; go plays, and there was more passing the ball. It may have been the absence of Curry holding the ball in the post, but hopefully Isiah has refined his offense in the offseason.&quot;

I agree. The offense is really starting to shape up. I was reading on MSG&#039;s Game On! that Thomas thinks the team&#039;s chemisrty is good right now.
(http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/ricky_vaughn/index.html)
I think they need to get better at reading each other defensively before the chemistry is truly &quot;good.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Knick offense, aka the Quick, seemed to be more fluid. There were some good give &amp; go plays, and there was more passing the ball. It may have been the absence of Curry holding the ball in the post, but hopefully Isiah has refined his offense in the offseason.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. The offense is really starting to shape up. I was reading on MSG&#8217;s Game On! that Thomas thinks the team&#8217;s chemisrty is good right now.<br />
(<a href="http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/ricky_vaughn/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/ricky_vaughn/index.html</a>)<br />
I think they need to get better at reading each other defensively before the chemistry is truly &#8220;good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank O.</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142529</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Lee is one of those players that gives the team what it needs when it needs it.
If they need him to score, he can score. If they need him to rebound, he rebounds.
Last year, he was the tam&#039;s primary rebounder.
With Randolph and others working the boards, he&#039;s going to be competing with them for boards.
In some ways he reminds me of Shawn Marion, but he&#039;s not there yet.

One key thing to note on defense: 
Crawford is horrible. A classic matador.
A player goes by and he gives up. It&#039;s like playing with a bad defender in a pick up game: always looking for the handoff.
He doesn&#039;t fight picks. He doesn&#039;t stay with a player if they make a move to pass him.
It&#039;s pathetic for a guy that is supposed to be athletic.
I have to say: I don&#039;t like him.
Sadly, I think Marbury is often guilty of the same thing: he gives up and tries to hand off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lee is one of those players that gives the team what it needs when it needs it.<br />
If they need him to score, he can score. If they need him to rebound, he rebounds.<br />
Last year, he was the tam&#8217;s primary rebounder.<br />
With Randolph and others working the boards, he&#8217;s going to be competing with them for boards.<br />
In some ways he reminds me of Shawn Marion, but he&#8217;s not there yet.</p>
<p>One key thing to note on defense:<br />
Crawford is horrible. A classic matador.<br />
A player goes by and he gives up. It&#8217;s like playing with a bad defender in a pick up game: always looking for the handoff.<br />
He doesn&#8217;t fight picks. He doesn&#8217;t stay with a player if they make a move to pass him.<br />
It&#8217;s pathetic for a guy that is supposed to be athletic.<br />
I have to say: I don&#8217;t like him.<br />
Sadly, I think Marbury is often guilty of the same thing: he gives up and tries to hand off.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142517</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree his rebounding numbers may go down. Still, so far he has posted a winscore of 11 in 32 minutes against  philly, and 12.5 in 24 minutes against Maccabi  So for those two games, in which he didn&#039;t rebound will, he posted a per minute win score of .420. The average for a power forward is .215. So to get esoteric, his PawsMin is .205. Last year, it was .184. Basically, despite not rebounding particularly well, he has still been 12% more productive in these (meaningless) preseason games than he was on average last year. 

Of course he has had to post a ts% of 80% to do it, which isn&#039;t going to happen over the long run.  But it&#039;s weird. Watching NBA ballers, and looking at their numbers, I often sense there is something almost like a basketball quanta for players , some sort of constant,  a production quotient they are bound to more or less achieve no matter what there role is on the court is or who they are playing with.

Let&#039;s hope it works out that way with Lee&#039;s transition to being more of a scoring player, which is what seems to be in the works...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree his rebounding numbers may go down. Still, so far he has posted a winscore of 11 in 32 minutes against  philly, and 12.5 in 24 minutes against Maccabi  So for those two games, in which he didn&#8217;t rebound will, he posted a per minute win score of .420. The average for a power forward is .215. So to get esoteric, his PawsMin is .205. Last year, it was .184. Basically, despite not rebounding particularly well, he has still been 12% more productive in these (meaningless) preseason games than he was on average last year. </p>
<p>Of course he has had to post a ts% of 80% to do it, which isn&#8217;t going to happen over the long run.  But it&#8217;s weird. Watching NBA ballers, and looking at their numbers, I often sense there is something almost like a basketball quanta for players , some sort of constant,  a production quotient they are bound to more or less achieve no matter what there role is on the court is or who they are playing with.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope it works out that way with Lee&#8217;s transition to being more of a scoring player, which is what seems to be in the works&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K. (KnickerBlogger)</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142489</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K. (KnickerBlogger)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So far, through two completely meaningless preseason games, it looks like his offense production might be distracting him from rebounding.&quot;

I hate to say this, but it&#039;s entirely possible that some of Lee&#039;s rebounding prowess was due to playing next to poor rebounders in Curry &amp; Frye. During the preseason games I saw him compete with Randolph on one rebound, and Chandler on another. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if his rebounding dropped a notch this year, especially if guys like Zach, Balkman, Chandler, Collins, and Nate see more playing time. There&#039;ll just be less rebounds to go around.

One other thing I noticed is Lee releasing down the court on one play (earning a fast break basket). Maybe with all the rebounders on the court, he&#039;s able to (either on his own or by design) run more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So far, through two completely meaningless preseason games, it looks like his offense production might be distracting him from rebounding.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hate to say this, but it&#8217;s entirely possible that some of Lee&#8217;s rebounding prowess was due to playing next to poor rebounders in Curry &#038; Frye. During the preseason games I saw him compete with Randolph on one rebound, and Chandler on another. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if his rebounding dropped a notch this year, especially if guys like Zach, Balkman, Chandler, Collins, and Nate see more playing time. There&#8217;ll just be less rebounds to go around.</p>
<p>One other thing I noticed is Lee releasing down the court on one play (earning a fast break basket). Maybe with all the rebounders on the court, he&#8217;s able to (either on his own or by design) run more.</p>
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		<title>By: superhusha</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142417</link>
		<dc:creator>superhusha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lee also has the vision and ability to rack up 3 or 4 assists per if he wanted to.  He averaged 1.8 last year at 30 mpg.  I mean let randoph drop 15 footers.  That and picks are more effective when you have the ball alot of times the defender doesn&#039;t see it coming.  Lee could bump most 5&#039;s out of position. but what would really be effective is lee setting the pick randoph coming off of it leaving the other teams 3 and 4 out of position causing the 5 to rotate leaving a floater for randoph or a dunk for curry.  It&#039;d be better than just tossing the ball in from the wing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee also has the vision and ability to rack up 3 or 4 assists per if he wanted to.  He averaged 1.8 last year at 30 mpg.  I mean let randoph drop 15 footers.  That and picks are more effective when you have the ball alot of times the defender doesn&#8217;t see it coming.  Lee could bump most 5&#8242;s out of position. but what would really be effective is lee setting the pick randoph coming off of it leaving the other teams 3 and 4 out of position causing the 5 to rotate leaving a floater for randoph or a dunk for curry.  It&#8217;d be better than just tossing the ball in from the wing.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142394</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely agree.  His finishing/foul drawing is superb. The same is true of his offensive positioning. One of Lee&#039;s best skill (I am of course a serious connoisseur of those)  might be his ability to make himself available for passes. That is a skill, just as passing is. He is unbelievable at getting to the low block at the perfect moment for his teammates to find him. If he gets the pass he usually converts or gets fouled. If a shot is  taken he is is ready to board. He really moves well without the ball, much better than any other Knick. He has a knack for being in the right place. 

So far, through two completely meaningless preseason games,  it looks like his offense production might be distracting him from rebounding. But he actually has been almost as effective as ever. He seems to be bizarrely efficient at whatever he is focusing on, whether it&#039;s rebounding or scoring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree.  His finishing/foul drawing is superb. The same is true of his offensive positioning. One of Lee&#8217;s best skill (I am of course a serious connoisseur of those)  might be his ability to make himself available for passes. That is a skill, just as passing is. He is unbelievable at getting to the low block at the perfect moment for his teammates to find him. If he gets the pass he usually converts or gets fouled. If a shot is  taken he is is ready to board. He really moves well without the ball, much better than any other Knick. He has a knack for being in the right place. </p>
<p>So far, through two completely meaningless preseason games,  it looks like his offense production might be distracting him from rebounding. But he actually has been almost as effective as ever. He seems to be bizarrely efficient at whatever he is focusing on, whether it&#8217;s rebounding or scoring.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K. (KnickerBlogger)</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2008-preseason-game-2/#comment-142387</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K. (KnickerBlogger)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing I didn&#039;t mention is that watching Lee, I was reminded of how good he is. After an offseason of his detractors stating that he&#039;s simply a role player, I found him to be more capable on offense than he&#039;s given credit for. 

You&#039;d think he was Dennis Rodman (who was comical on offense) by how some people described him. But he put the ball on the floor a few times, and one time he beat his defender off the dribble. Lee&#039;s very good finishing around the hoop, either by scoring or drawing a foul (which should have been obvious from the box scores). He moved well without the ball, at least twice receiving good passes from Nate &amp; Jamal as they broke down the defense. In essence, Lee was an active participant in the half court set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I didn&#8217;t mention is that watching Lee, I was reminded of how good he is. After an offseason of his detractors stating that he&#8217;s simply a role player, I found him to be more capable on offense than he&#8217;s given credit for. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think he was Dennis Rodman (who was comical on offense) by how some people described him. But he put the ball on the floor a few times, and one time he beat his defender off the dribble. Lee&#8217;s very good finishing around the hoop, either by scoring or drawing a foul (which should have been obvious from the box scores). He moved well without the ball, at least twice receiving good passes from Nate &#038; Jamal as they broke down the defense. In essence, Lee was an active participant in the half court set.</p>
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