Houston took and missed two shots. I was at the game.

Wait a second. Don’t blame the fans for a defeatist attitude. This team has had 6 straight losing seasons. I’m the same fan I was last decade when the Knicks were one of the top teams in the league. If I’m pessimistic about this team being competitive, it’s because there’s little evidence to the contrary. In sports everything stems from the management down to the fans. Look at the Dallas Mavericks. That franchise was awful a decade ago. You think the fans having a positive attitude contributed to their turn around? No. It started from the top, and trickled down.

The fans have very little to say on whether Kobe comes to New York. We can sit here & debate Kobe scenarios all day long, and it wouldn’t make it happen. Ultimately it’s up to the front office to improve the team. When Isiah trades for him, I’ll be one of the first talking about it. I just don’t care to discuss Kobe, because we’ve discussed him all summer long. And he’s not on our team.

The lakers won 40 games last year with Odom and Walton out for a good chunk of time. Bynum should improve. Farmar should improve. If Bryant, Odom, and Walton stay healthy, that’s a 45-50 win team, easy. Something wrong with my logic?

can you really compare curry with bynum or kwame as far as last years production

and who else did the lakers roll out last year? you wanna put brian cook up against any knick?
jordan farmer against nate?”

Lamar Odom is a better player than every player on last years Knicks roster not named David Lee, not that it means much because you never judge teams “spot by spot”; the team with the talent advantage at more positions is not the team that wins, so it’s irrelevant.

And yes, I would love to compare Curry with Kwame and Bynum…both are better rebounders and defenders than Curry. If the Lakers were to trade Bynum and Kwame for Curry the Knicks would undoubtedly win that trade, but the Lakers would never even consider doing so.

Last years Lakers were near the top of the West for the first 1/4 the before injuries piled up, they were definitely better than last years Knicks.

Your analysis of the potential Knicks roster never mentions defense and rebounding; unless you are one of the best offensive teams in history(and don’t fool yourself, the Knicks team you propose wouldn’t come close) then you need both of those to be successful.

Finally, I’m tired of people talking about Richardson shutting down Lebron. Richardson didn’t even play in the only bad game Lebron had against the Knicks. Richardson played decent defense on him for a short stretch, it doesn’t really mean that much.

Houston only took one shot. Nate Robinson meanwhile went 0 for 4.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results but it does happen once in a blue moon. ;-)

Look..Kobe getting traded is clearly not some pie in the sky dream like it may have been even last year (or arguably six months ago)

1. Kobe wants out – no doubt about that
2, the KNICKS have the Chips as currently constructed and can craft a deal that is more appealing than the others out there.
3. Magic Johnson has a relationship with IT and Dr Buss and is in both their ears over this
4. The KNCIKS have the payroll and the market to support the players
5. NYC is as far away from LA as possible
6. No WAY the lakers trade him within the western conference –no way — it just doesnt happen with superstar deals.
7. The KNCIKS need to make a splash to get the PR off of the misogynists working in the front office.

If this defeatest attitude isnt overcome by the fan base we’ll be doomed to watch mediocre talent and hope for the next ewing to drop in our laps or some pie in the sky superstar to come to NYC for pennies on the dollar.

I hate Dolan and Co as much as anyone but Im a knicks fan damn-it and Kobe improves this team in a lot of ways.

I want some excitement brought back to the garden..
Kobe = hope
Kobe = star power
Kobe = excitement
KObe = a significant upgrade to the knicks as currently constructed

I enjoy your site immensely Mike — and think you all are among the most knowledgeable knick fans – and Ive read the archives regarding the trade possibilities but I think most of the arguments against bringing in Kobe come from a defeatist attitude or a wing and a prayer that somehow someway our existing talent will morph into uberstars.

As to the game, they found Curry in the post on the first play and pretty much did not try again. They hardly seemed to run any sets at all.

On D, by early in the third quarter, Curry was so winded that Garnett ran full court and beat him down the floor like Paxico beat Lawyer Milloy on Monday. So embarassing.

No one made any shots tonight as the ghastly percentages will bear out. I figure that’s likely to get better. We do have scorers. they, also, made more shots than they normally would make. The forty point spread was a statistical anomaly, I think, but the lack of creativity on offense and the horrible perimeter defense did not help matters. I figure, on a normal night, they lose this game by 15 or so. That doesn’t exactly get them in the playoffs though.

In my heart I can’t believe it’s going to be as bad as last year, but, I had a familiar lump in my throat watching this game. They were done before the first quarter was over.

Allan Houston missed all his shots and got a quick hook. He tried to funnel Ray Allen to help that was late in coming and gave up an easy layup.

Randolph Morris had two nice turn around jumpers. One from each side of the baseline.

Nichols has a sweet looking stroke, though he almost cracked the back of the rim with a three point attempt. He had a nice finish on the break, though, and has a veteran presence about him.

Chandler showed good range on his shot.

Fred Jones is a good defender

Basically all units got severly played tonight. They were better 1-15.

The Knicks just don’t get these kinds of deals. Name the last great player that came to the Knicks? A bad-backed Larry Johnson? Pariah Latrell Sprewell? Overrated Allan Houston? “We’ll trade him for free” Zach Randolph? “Your old team just improved by trading you” Stephon Marbury?

The Knicks didn’t get Kevin Garnett. The Knicks didn’t get Vince Carter. The Knicks didn’t get Shaq. The Knicks didn’t get McGrady. We just don’t get the superstar. Maybe it’s because the Knicks don’t have the right chips. Maybe it’s because no one likes Dolan or Isiah. Maybe it’s because no one really wants to move their family to New York. I don’t know why.

The Bulls certainly have a leg up on New York. So do the Suns. The Mavs as well. Kobe might come to New York. Or Chicago. Or Phoenix. Or Dallas. Or Atlanta. Or New Jersey. Or Indiana. Or Los Angeles.

Meh can the season start already? (Maybe MSG can actually show a game – if I can see the Magic-Cavs from China why can’t I see the Knicks play in Boston?)

can you really compare curry with bynum or kwame as far as last years production

and who else did the lakers roll out last year? you wanna put brian cook up against any knick?
jordan farmer against nate?

I would also debate the statement that the proposed Kobe Knicks with Stephon, Curry, Qrich would be a one-star team. certainly kobe’s talents far surpass everyone on the team but where does an all world talent play where that’s not the case?

Certainly the Kobe knicks wouldnt be standing around while KB throws up 40 shots a game.

Star passes to kobe on the wing
Kobe dishes to Curry under the hoop
Q rich goes back to banging threes, playing the blocks and shutting down lebron as he did last year(good line but if canadian bull fighters had to deal with a bull ike lebron there’d be a whole lot less canadian bullfighters)

The truth of the matter is that there is nowhere Kobe can go where he will win more games than he will playing with the Lakers as currently constituted. They will be a 45-50 win team.

Owen – how can you call the lakers a 45 win team this year with the talent they have on their roster this year..i see them out of the playoff hunt and going nowhere as currently constituted.

I understand you have a man crush on DLee but unless he morphs into John Havlicek or Dave Debusshere you’ve just gotta let him go for what Kobe is today and brings to NYC.

Excitement, relevance, and playoff possibilities.

Dlee (unless you think he’s gonna play the 3 with any regularity an dbe able to keep up with the faster players on the wing) will be a rotation player this year

Im just not ready to sit around for another year and wait for pie in the sky because lebron likes the yankees and MAY opt out and MAY want to come to NYC even though he was born and raised in Cleveland — and I bet he has an indians hat on during the World Series.