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Wednesday, August 20, 2014

2007 Knicks Preseason Roster Crunch – Pt. 2

According to the Daily News, Fred Jones may have earned himself a roster spot.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2007/10/16/2007-10-16_knicks_fred_jones_likely_to_send_allan_h.html

It sounds impossible but Jones already may have pulled it off. Last week, Isiah Thomas provided an unsolicited status report on Jones when he said, “Don’t plan on him going anywhere anytime soon.”

Thomas made the comment Friday, the day Allan Houston reported to training camp. Houston and Demetris Nichols, the aforementioned draft pick from Syracuse, are both trying to make a roster that already includes the maximum 15 guaranteed contracts. For weeks, it was generally assumed that Jones, portrayed as a throw-in in the Zach Randolph trade, would be the odd man out.

But Jones’ relationship with Thomas goes back to their Indiana Pacer days and there is something to be said for being an “Isiah guy.” Just ask Knicks VP of basketball operations Glen Grunwald or assistant coaches Brendan Suhr and Mark Aguirre.

“He gave me my shot,” Jones said following yesterday’s practice in Greenburgh. “Leaving Portland was a little difficult for me because that’s my home city. But it eased the pain knowing I was coming to a familiar situation.”

Thomas sees the 6-4 Jones as a defensive stopper who can play either shooting guard or small forward. Of course, the Knicks envisioned Jared Jeffries as a defensive specialist last season but that never panned out. In order for the 6-2 Jones to crack the rotation he would cost somebody – Jeffries, Quentin Richardson, Nate Robinson – minutes. But on a team that struggled to defend on the perimeter, Jones could find a spot.

“He’s a tough defender,” Thomas said. “In this league you have to be able to stop people.”

“When I came into this league I probably wasn’t the greatest defender,” said Jones, who spent last season with the Raptors and Trail Blazers. “I knew that was my calling card to get on the floor. I take pride in that now. That’s something I’m looking forward to bringing to this team.”

Additionally the Knicks cut Roderick Wilmont. So the roster is so far:

Very likely (10)

No Player Pos Ht Wt Born College Yrs
32 Renaldo Balkman F 6-8 208 Jul. 14, 1984 South Carolina 1
11 Jamal Crawford G 6-5 200 Mar. 20, 1980 Michigan 7
34 Eddy Curry C 6-11 285 Dec. 5, 1982 Thornwood HS (IL) 6
42 David Lee F 6-9 240 Apr. 29, 1983 Florida 2
3 Stephon Marbury G 6-2 205 Feb. 20, 1977 Georgia Tech 11
50 Zach Randolph F 6-9 260 Jul. 16, 1981 Michigan State 6
23 Quentin Richardson G/F 6-6 235 Apr. 13, 1980 DePaul 7
20 Jared Jeffries F 6-11 240 Nov. 25, 1981 Indiana 5
4 Nate Robinson G 5-9 180 31-May-84 Washington 2
25 Mardy Collins G 6-6 220 Aug. 4, 1984 Temple 1

Of course, if anyone isn’t going to make the team from this group, it will be the last 2. This leaves 5 spots open, 2 more roster spot and 3 inactive spots from the following players.

No Player Pos Ht Wt Born College Yrs
2 Fred Jones G 6-2 225 Mar. 11, 1979 Oregon 5
5 Randolph Morris C/F 6-11 260 Jan. 2, 1986 Kentucky 1
31 Malik Rose F 6-7 255 Nov. 23, 1974 Drexel 11
21 Wilson Chandler F 6-8 220 10-May-87 DePaul R
1 Jared Jordan G 6-2 190 Oct. 14, 1984 Marist 1
35 Demetris Nichols G/F 6-8 215 Sep. 4, 1984 Syracuse R
13 Jerome James C 7-1 285 Nov. 17, 1975 Florida A&M 8
? Allan Houston G 6-6 205 4/2/1971 Tennesse 13
6 Walker Russell, Jr. G 6-1 170 Oct. 6, 1982 Jacksonville State R

Let’s assume Jones is in. Also let’s assume that Isiah won’t cut Chandler or Morris. Walker Russell’s father works for the Knicks, so he’s probably there due to nepotism and little else. So there remains only 2 spots left for Rose, James, Nichols, Jordan, and Houston. Isiah has to make a tough(?) decision on whether or not to buy out his veterans (Rose/James) or cut his rookies (Nichols/Jordan). He could possibly hold onto Jordan by sending him overseas, but he still has to decide between Nichols or one of his vets. And even after all that, Isiah has to decide who will stay on the active roster, and who (if anyone) he might send to the
NBDL.

39 comments on “2007 Knicks Preseason Roster Crunch – Pt. 2

  1. Rikk

    Call me naive, but how could Houston not make this team? Granted, it makes perfect sense from an Isiah standpoint, them being teammates in Detroit in 93-94 probably gives him the willies, and even if we’re saying (quite optimistically) that he buys out EITHER Rose or James, then it comes down to Allan Houston or Demetris Nichols? He’s clearly not concerned with the fanbase, or with Knicks history, but can’t the savvy PR Isiah behind that pearly smile realize that giving Houston a shot is a legitimate way to save face? Or does he really not believe he has to save face?

    The love/hate thing is going this year more than ever. I curse my Knicks fifteen times a day but I can’t wait till they play some basketball again.

  2. Z

    “Thomas sees the 6-4 Jones as a defensive stopper who can play either shooting guard or small forward…in order for the 6-2 Jones to crack the rotation he would cost somebody minutes…”

    I guess my biggest question is whether Jones is 6-2 or 6-4…

    6’2″ is too small to defend at the 3 effectively. But then again 6’4″ probably is too. I can’t remember watching Jones play much, but he seems redundant on a team with Collins. Are they both necessary? Collins is younger and taller. If Jones’ relationship with Isiah trumps Collins’ size and age, I’m okay with that, but lets cut Collins then (these spots are precious, especially as long as James is taking one of them up…)

  3. Henry

    I understand Houston has a following, but let’s be real, he’s does not fit into the current Knicks. It’s as if we owe him something so we have to give him a shot. We owe Ewing and he gets no shot to be an assistant coach.

    If at all possible I’d rather keep Nichols who young and down the road may have an upside. The twelfth to fifteen spot is for the future not the past.

    Also why isn?t tonight game televise, that?s total B freaking S.

  4. spacedocrich

    charles barkley had an interesting comment about old guys coming back, he said they feel good because they are not playing, that after a few games playing some real minutes, they won’t feel quite so good.

    Two real questions, can houston play at all, and if he can play, can he do it for more than one year. simply isn’t worth giving up a young player if he is to be a one year wonder. but if he can play 15 to 20 minutes a game for a couple of years as a zone breaker or outside shooter for an inside outside team, then a proven shooter better than unproven nichols, who as a two year sign could be gone in two years anyway. best options, get rid of james, send jordan overseas and choose between nichols and houston.

    Use rose as emergency big, trading him next year as expiring contract. Need 4 preferably 5 bigs, have lee, morris curry randolph and rose, could use chandler and jeffries against smaller pf’s in emergency.

    BTW have you noticed that Thomas is bringing in a lot of guys who can play defence against multiple positions, he has played mardy at three, as well as one and two, same for balkman and jeffries playing 2,3,4, jones and nichols also play d against multiple positions, gives a lot of choices on d, makes switching a much lower risk move as it avoids extreme mismatches after a switch.

  5. Ammad

    Let me ask you this question how come other teams in camp are able to trade away young guys or veterans for 2nd round picks in the very distant future or for cash considerations, can’t we do the same.

    I mean Fred Jones isn’t a scrub he is worth a 2nd round pick for a contending team. Why not trade these guys to Cleveland, last I checked they are having some issues with guys threatening to go to Europe.

    The Jalen Rose deal which I personally think was a good deal, was negated when they bought him out and lost the salary cap relief and or the expiring contract benefit that he was going to give them.

    But can’t Isiah trade someone away for a 2nd round pick to open up a spot, why is it always buy this guy out and buy that guy out and then you watch them go and be pretty good for other teams.

    Look at the guy on the Bobcats, Bullard, or Udoka. Isn’t that the two things that the Knicks need, a zone breaker and a defensive wing?

    The league knows that Isiah is a sexual deviant but they also know that he can eye talent, and if he can eye talent people want his young guys. Give them a couple at least get something back for them.

  6. GetKobeNow

    Chap – thats a no brainer.
    id go one further and sweeten the pot by taking back vlad rad and his snowboard while sending balkman and fred jones expiring deal.
    think EC, Q Rich, starbury, kobe and JJ2 or vlad rad couldnt compete in the East? i’d leave the bench with strong role players (nate, Mardy, malik etc), eliminate the roster crunch and give the lakers servicable parts to work with Jacksons scheme. After reading about the intern program at the garden Kobe would come to NYC in a sec..

  7. T-Mart

    I fell into some sweet tickets for tonight’s game at the Td Bank North Center, Row A court-side seats on the baseline left of the Celtics bench. Be on the tv look-out for 2 buffoons being ejected from the arena, 1 wearing a vintage middle-school Ewing jersey that doesn’t completely fit right anymore, and the other with a Marbury. I’ll have a full report for you people tommorrow.

  8. Caleb

    “id go one further and sweeten the pot by taking back vlad rad and his snowboard while sending balkman and fred jones expiring deal”

    I will be the contrarian and say it would be nuts to trade Randolph, Lee, Balkman and Crawford for Kobe and Vlad. The Knicks would be worse than the Lakers are now. Where’s the benefit?

  9. JK47

    “I will be the contrarian and say it would be nuts to trade Randolph, Lee, Balkman and Crawford for Kobe and Vlad. The Knicks would be worse than the Lakers are now. Where?s the benefit?”

    Trading Randolph and Lee would leave the frontcourt perilously thin, I agree. Eddy Curry and VladRad is not a frontcourt I want to see anytime soon.

  10. chaplin

    jk 47, yeah, but then the knicks would have Kobe Bryant, which is better than havin a front court of Lee and Randolph. The trade won’t happen anyway, but it would be hilarious if it could happen and the Knicks turned it downed ’cause they wanted to keep Lee……you know, a 35 win season with no juice in the garden is very much the accepted goal now, it seems.

  11. chaplin

    jk 47, yeah, but then the knicks would have Kobe Bryant, which is better than havin a front court of Lee and Randolph. The trade won’t happen anyway, but it would be hilarious if it could happen and the Knicks turned it downed ’cause they wanted to keep Lee……you know, a 35 win season with no juice in the garden is very much the accepted goal now, it seems.

  12. xduckshoex

    Curry, Radmanovic Richardson, Bryant and Marbury would be lucky to win 30 games. No defense, no rebounding, no bench. They would be worse than last seasons Lakers team. I’d deal Curry, Lee and Crawford for Bryant in a heartbeat, but if the Knicks have to send out all of their defense and rebounding then it’s not worth it.

  13. Frank O.

    The question to ask regarding a Knicks trade for Kobe is this:
    Why would the Lakers want to become the Knicks?

  14. JK47

    The question to ask regarding a Knicks trade for Kobe is this:
    Why would the Lakers want to become the Knicks?

    What’s the difference? They’re out on the fringes of title contention anyway and they’re wasting Kobe’s prime. They don’t know what they’re doing over there in Laker Land.

  15. Owen

    As one of the main posters on the Lee for Kobe thread a couple months back, all I can say is, I have nothing more to say on the matter.

    :-)

  16. GetKobeNow

    sub J Jeffries for Rad on the first team and you’ve got three above average Defensive players

    Kobe – all defense 1st team,
    Q Rich – arguably the best defensive player on the team last year
    JJ2 – say what u want about last year but his role with the Wiz was focus on D, rebounding and not touching the ball. In this role he was a servicable role player — plus with those 4 on the court he wouldnt see the ball unless it was an offensive rebound.

    In terms of bench, you’ll get 6/7 role players for maybe 15 – 20 mins a game –

    Nate and Mardy in the back court pressing full court
    Malik and either RMorris or Snacks up front
    Vlad filling it up on the wing and Wilson chandler getting a few minutes on d and on the wing.. Now thats a team. not a collection of parts like we have now.

    Kobe is a top 5 player ever.. – in NYC with EC on the blocks and Star dishing and Qrich swishing that team can compete for the title.

  17. GetKobeNow

    Why would the Lakers want to become the Knicks?

    from the Lakers standpoint they’re not getting any better offers than what is described above for a disgruntled player that has “Sat out” the last three practices and has a complete no trade.

    Action Jackson probably thinks he can work his triangle with a few serviceable players.

    Buss isnt getting equal value – no one ever does for disgruntled superstars.

    But a cheap coachable scoring guard, two young players, an All star, expiring dough and getting rid of a snow boarding headache is the best he can do by far — to a team Kobe would agree to go to and is 3,000 miles away from LA.

  18. Frank O.

    Or the Lakers could sit on Kobe. And even if he doesn’t play as hard as usual, the Lakers get a player who even when playing at 80 percent is better than 80 percent of the players in the NBA…

    I don’t know. When making deals I think you need to look at the needs of the other team to see realistically how a deal is beneficial to both, if not quite mutually beneficial.
    There is a point that a team with a disgruntled star doesn’t usually get back equal value.

  19. GetKobeNow

    Lets look at it from the lakers stand point.

    Lakers keeping Kobe means he chucks up 35 shots a game and walks around sulking with a bad attitude until he opts out and with no return to the Lakers.

    Phil Jackson (arguably their second greatest asset) gets frustrated and decides to move to india study under the dail lama and jack nicholson and the rest of the faker crowd stop showing up to the forum.

    What do the lakers have besides a disgruntled superstar that has sat out the last three practices (thus giving 0% not 80%) and recently cleaned (out) his locker while telling every press person who will listen that he wants out?

    THey have a world class coach with a specific system he wants to run and no players to fit it.

    They have two young bigs — one who may develop and one who may end up flipping burgers.

    They have Lamar Odom who is really their only true star player who is glad to be there.

    They have a few decent role players, some young some old.

    They have a free agent signing who like to violate his contract by snowboarding.

    They have some fans who like to see and be seen at the games.

    if they want to preserve their assets (coach, odom, fans) they need to cut bait on the disgruntled superstar and get a borderline allstar (23 and 10 Zach), 2 promising rooks who play every nite (balk and lee) a coachable 2 guard to fill it up in the system (craw) and get rid of a mistake signing in vlad who is stupid enough to go snow boarding during the all star break when his contract says dont do that.

    they need to send kobe to a team as far away as possible that wont torture them 10 times a year in their own building (disgruntled stars are always traded this way)

    Sounds like Kobe wearing #8 in NYC is closer than most people think.

  20. daaarn

    oh to long for the 90s again. it’s quite depressing to realize that we are almost a decade removed from having a legitimate perennial all-star on the team and that outlook doesnt look to change in the forseeable future.

  21. Owen

    Kobe’s trade value is much higher than his real value. There is almost no deal the lakers would do for Kobe that would help the team getting him.

    The truth of the matter is that there is nowhere Kobe can go where he will win more games than he will playing with the Lakers as currently constituted. They will be a 45-50 win team.

    Trade him to the Bulls for Wallace Deng and Gordon, and I guarantee you the Bulls will be worse than they were last year.

  22. Brian Cronin

    Yeah, I normally loves me some Hollinger, but his article on the Kobe trade was quite weak. For whatever reason, Hollinger seems to have caught the same affliction Mitch Lawrence has – when out of state guys come in to write for the New York papers, they are often preternaturally disposed to disliking the Knicks.

    It’s weird.

  23. xduck_shoex

    One star teams rarely work. I know, I know…the Cavs went to the Finals as a one star team. The difference between those Cavs and the proposed Knicks team is that those Cavs played great defense and rebounded the ball well. The proposed Knicks roster won’t be able to do either of those. A starting frontcourt of Curry and Radmanovic, backed up by Rose, James and Morris? Yeah, they would still have Richardson, the best defender on last years team…but that’s about as prestigious as being the best Canadian bullfighter. If the move would leave the Knicks the flexibility to acquire the role players necessary in the near future, it would be something to consider, but it won’t. That Knicks team would be a significant step down from the Lakers team Kobe was so frustrated with last year; the only reason they may win anywhere close to the same amount of games is the weaker competition in the East.

  24. Owen

    The rest of the cavaliers don’t get the credit they deserve. Their frontcourt of Varejao, Ilgauskas, and Gooden was extremely effective.

  25. Z

    If we are looking at Kobe one year from now, and we have the pieces to get him, I think I’d rather wait an extra year for when LeBron is an expiring contract and his agent is forcing him out of Ohio. It’d be a shame to waste all our stockpiled talent on Kobe when the younger, better, James could be equally available.

  26. jonestr

    I think you will lose Jordan’s rights if you have brought him into a training camp and then cut him. So I think sending him to Europe and still retaining his draft rights is not an option at this point.

  27. GetKobeNow

    . That Knicks team would be a significant step down from the Lakers team Kobe was so frustrated with last year;
    Are you kidding?
    lets take it spot by spot
    stephon is waaaay better than derek fisher
    Q rich is a much better wing player/defender than luke walton (or any other laker wing)

    can you really compare curry with bynum or kwame as far as last years production

    and who else did the lakers roll out last year? you wanna put brian cook up against any knick?
    jordan farmer against nate?

    I would also debate the statement that the proposed Kobe Knicks with Stephon, Curry, Qrich would be a one-star team. certainly kobe’s talents far surpass everyone on the team but where does an all world talent play where that’s not the case?

    Certainly the Kobe knicks wouldnt be standing around while KB throws up 40 shots a game.

    Star passes to kobe on the wing
    Kobe dishes to Curry under the hoop
    Q rich goes back to banging threes, playing the blocks and shutting down lebron as he did last year(good line but if canadian bull fighters had to deal with a bull ike lebron there’d be a whole lot less canadian bullfighters)

    The truth of the matter is that there is nowhere Kobe can go where he will win more games than he will playing with the Lakers as currently constituted. They will be a 45-50 win team.

    Owen – how can you call the lakers a 45 win team this year with the talent they have on their roster this year..i see them out of the playoff hunt and going nowhere as currently constituted.

    I understand you have a man crush on DLee but unless he morphs into John Havlicek or Dave Debusshere you’ve just gotta let him go for what Kobe is today and brings to NYC.

    Excitement, relevance, and playoff possibilities.

    Dlee (unless you think he’s gonna play the 3 with any regularity an dbe able to keep up with the faster players on the wing) will be a rotation player this year

    Im just not ready to sit around for another year and wait for pie in the sky because lebron likes the yankees and MAY opt out and MAY want to come to NYC even though he was born and raised in Cleveland — and I bet he has an indians hat on during the World Series.

  28. Mike K. (KnickerBlogger) Post author

    My god, does every thread have to devolve into a Kobe Bryant thread? I’m really tired of rehashing the same arguments, especially for someone that isn’t even on our team. And from what I can see isn’t likely to be on our team.

    The Knicks just don’t get these kinds of deals. Name the last great player that came to the Knicks? A bad-backed Larry Johnson? Pariah Latrell Sprewell? Overrated Allan Houston? “We’ll trade him for free” Zach Randolph? “Your old team just improved by trading you” Stephon Marbury?

    The Knicks didn’t get Kevin Garnett. The Knicks didn’t get Vince Carter. The Knicks didn’t get Shaq. The Knicks didn’t get McGrady. We just don’t get the superstar. Maybe it’s because the Knicks don’t have the right chips. Maybe it’s because no one likes Dolan or Isiah. Maybe it’s because no one really wants to move their family to New York. I don’t know why.

    The Bulls certainly have a leg up on New York. So do the Suns. The Mavs as well. Kobe might come to New York. Or Chicago. Or Phoenix. Or Dallas. Or Atlanta. Or New Jersey. Or Indiana. Or Los Angeles.

    Meh can the season start already? (Maybe MSG can actually show a game – if I can see the Magic-Cavs from China why can’t I see the Knicks play in Boston?)

  29. danvt

    Hey folks,
    I live in VT now and suffered through some of the poorest coverage of a basketball game I have seen. Forget about knowing who’s in the game. Even finding out who scored, if it was a Knick, was not possible on a number of occasions (and they scored so rarely, it would have been nice). Inept game calling and missed shots by the cameras all night. Tom Heinsohn is completely hateful as well. He gets mad at calls that go against the Cs like Nate Robinson does.

    As to the game, they found Curry in the post on the first play and pretty much did not try again. They hardly seemed to run any sets at all.

    On D, by early in the third quarter, Curry was so winded that Garnett ran full court and beat him down the floor like Paxico beat Lawyer Milloy on Monday. So embarassing.

    No one made any shots tonight as the ghastly percentages will bear out. I figure that’s likely to get better. We do have scorers. they, also, made more shots than they normally would make. The forty point spread was a statistical anomaly, I think, but the lack of creativity on offense and the horrible perimeter defense did not help matters. I figure, on a normal night, they lose this game by 15 or so. That doesn’t exactly get them in the playoffs though.

    In my heart I can’t believe it’s going to be as bad as last year, but, I had a familiar lump in my throat watching this game. They were done before the first quarter was over.

    Allan Houston missed all his shots and got a quick hook. He tried to funnel Ray Allen to help that was late in coming and gave up an easy layup.

    Randolph Morris had two nice turn around jumpers. One from each side of the baseline.

    Nichols has a sweet looking stroke, though he almost cracked the back of the rim with a three point attempt. He had a nice finish on the break, though, and has a veteran presence about him.

    Chandler showed good range on his shot.

    Fred Jones is a good defender

    Basically all units got severly played tonight. They were better 1-15.

  30. GetKobeNow

    The Knicks just don?t get these kinds of deals. Name the last great player that came to the Knicks?
    How about Walt Clyde Frazier?

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results but it does happen once in a blue moon. ;-)

    Look..Kobe getting traded is clearly not some pie in the sky dream like it may have been even last year (or arguably six months ago)

    1. Kobe wants out – no doubt about that
    2, the KNICKS have the Chips as currently constructed and can craft a deal that is more appealing than the others out there.
    3. Magic Johnson has a relationship with IT and Dr Buss and is in both their ears over this
    4. The KNCIKS have the payroll and the market to support the players
    5. NYC is as far away from LA as possible
    6. No WAY the lakers trade him within the western conference –no way — it just doesnt happen with superstar deals.
    7. The KNCIKS need to make a splash to get the PR off of the misogynists working in the front office.

    If this defeatest attitude isnt overcome by the fan base we’ll be doomed to watch mediocre talent and hope for the next ewing to drop in our laps or some pie in the sky superstar to come to NYC for pennies on the dollar.

    I hate Dolan and Co as much as anyone but Im a knicks fan damn-it and Kobe improves this team in a lot of ways.

    I want some excitement brought back to the garden..
    Kobe = hope
    Kobe = star power
    Kobe = excitement
    KObe = a significant upgrade to the knicks as currently constructed

    I enjoy your site immensely Mike — and think you all are among the most knowledgeable knick fans – and Ive read the archives regarding the trade possibilities but I think most of the arguments against bringing in Kobe come from a defeatist attitude or a wing and a prayer that somehow someway our existing talent will morph into uberstars.

  31. Ewing

    “Allan Houston missed all his shots and got a quick hook.”

    Houston only took one shot. Nate Robinson meanwhile went 0 for 4.

  32. xduckshoex

    “Are you kidding?
    lets take it spot by spot
    stephon is waaaay better than derek fisher
    Q rich is a much better wing player/defender than luke walton (or any other laker wing)

    can you really compare curry with bynum or kwame as far as last years production

    and who else did the lakers roll out last year? you wanna put brian cook up against any knick?
    jordan farmer against nate?”

    Lamar Odom is a better player than every player on last years Knicks roster not named David Lee, not that it means much because you never judge teams “spot by spot”; the team with the talent advantage at more positions is not the team that wins, so it’s irrelevant.

    And yes, I would love to compare Curry with Kwame and Bynum…both are better rebounders and defenders than Curry. If the Lakers were to trade Bynum and Kwame for Curry the Knicks would undoubtedly win that trade, but the Lakers would never even consider doing so.

    Last years Lakers were near the top of the West for the first 1/4 the before injuries piled up, they were definitely better than last years Knicks.

    Your analysis of the potential Knicks roster never mentions defense and rebounding; unless you are one of the best offensive teams in history(and don’t fool yourself, the Knicks team you propose wouldn’t come close) then you need both of those to be successful.

    Finally, I’m tired of people talking about Richardson shutting down Lebron. Richardson didn’t even play in the only bad game Lebron had against the Knicks. Richardson played decent defense on him for a short stretch, it doesn’t really mean that much.

  33. Owen

    “How can you call the lakers a 45 win team this year with the talent they have on their roster this year..”

    The lakers won 40 games last year with Odom and Walton out for a good chunk of time. Bynum should improve. Farmar should improve. If Bryant, Odom, and Walton stay healthy, that’s a 45-50 win team, easy. Something wrong with my logic?

  34. Mike K. (KnickerBlogger) Post author

    “If this defeatest attitude isnt overcome by the fan base we?ll be doomed to watch mediocre talent and hope for the next ewing to drop in our laps or some pie in the sky superstar to come to NYC for pennies on the dollar.”

    Wait a second. Don’t blame the fans for a defeatist attitude. This team has had 6 straight losing seasons. I’m the same fan I was last decade when the Knicks were one of the top teams in the league. If I’m pessimistic about this team being competitive, it’s because there’s little evidence to the contrary. In sports everything stems from the management down to the fans. Look at the Dallas Mavericks. That franchise was awful a decade ago. You think the fans having a positive attitude contributed to their turn around? No. It started from the top, and trickled down.

    The fans have very little to say on whether Kobe comes to New York. We can sit here & debate Kobe scenarios all day long, and it wouldn’t make it happen. Ultimately it’s up to the front office to improve the team. When Isiah trades for him, I’ll be one of the first talking about it. I just don’t care to discuss Kobe, because we’ve discussed him all summer long. And he’s not on our team.

  35. T-MART

    “Houston only took one shot. Nate Robinson meanwhile went 0 for 4.”

    Houston took and missed two shots. I was at the game.

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