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Saturday, October 25, 2014

10 Greatest Knick All-Star Moments: #3

As you may know, on Sunday February 20th Amar’e Stoudemire will become the first Knick to start in the NBA All-Star Game since Patrick Ewing did so in 1992. In honor of this momentous occasion, I decided to take a look back at the ten greatest moments in Knicks All-Star history, including a couple great moments from the larger All-Star Weekend. Some of these come from the recent past, while others date back to a time before I, and perhaps some of you, were alive. What all these moments have in common is that they show that Knicks players know how to step up for the Midseason Classic.

3. Ewing, Starks, and Oakley Represent (1994)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUAnCmmNHc

To anyone reading this, the word “1994” most likely brings up a host of conflicting emotions: pride, nostalgia, and joy, but also disappointment, regret, and sadness. The ’94 Knicks were the best team the city had seen since the glory days of the ’70s. Taking full advantage of Michael Jordan’s first retirement, they charged their way to the NBA Finals, only to lose to Olajuwon’s Rockets in a heart-wrenching Game 7. But to be sure, the 1993-1994 is one of the most memorable in Knicks history. For the first time in over two decades, the Knicks were the toast of the Eastern Conference, and they got there with one huge star (Ewing) and a roster full of scrappy veterans and role players. John Starks and Charles Oakley served as perfect complements to Ewing, with Starks able to drain threes when the big man was double-teamed and Oakley offering his toughness and rebounding prowess to make Ewing’s life much easier. This trio was rewarded with places on the Eastern All-Star team, the first time three Knicks players were on the roster since _______.

57 comments on “10 Greatest Knick All-Star Moments: #3

  1. DS

    1994 East All-Star Team:
    Great moment in Knicks All-Star History BUT
    worst All-Star roster ever?

    Scottie Pippen, CHI
    Derrick Coleman, NJN
    Shaquille O’Neal, ORL
    Kenny Anderson, NJN
    B.J. Armstrong, CHI
    John Starks, NYK
    Mark Price, CLE
    Patrick Ewing, NYK
    Charles Oakley, NYK
    Dominique Wilkins, ATL
    Mookie Blaylock, ATL
    Horace Grant,CHI

  2. Mike Kurylo

    DS: 1994 East All-Star Team:
    Great moment in Knicks All-Star History BUT
    worst All-Star roster ever?

    Scottie Pippen, CHI
    Derrick Coleman, NJN
    Shaquille O’Neal, ORL
    Kenny Anderson, NJN
    B.J. Armstrong, CHI
    John Starks, NYK
    Mark Price, CLE
    Patrick Ewing, NYK
    Charles Oakley, NYK
    Dominique Wilkins, ATL
    Mookie Blaylock, ATL
    Horace Grant,CHI  

    Worst in terms of star-power, this is probably closer to a real team than most. Just brutal PGs (save for Price). Perhaps Wilkins slides over to SG, and Scottie runs the PG for short stints (BJ is adequate, Mookie/Anderson should never see the floor) on the second team. Lots of workmen/rebounders on this team (Oak/Horace/DC).

    Actually yeah they need to trade Ewing to the West for Stockton, KJ, or Payton (all three were on the bench!). Funny thing is East won the game – mostly on 3 point shooting. The West only made one trey (6 attempts).

  3. art vandelay

    94 team wasn’t even the best knicks team of the 90s in my opinion…the 92-93 knicks squad was the best one since the 70s teams….with the 96-97 team a close second…ironically, neither made it to the finals for obvious reasons (namely charles smith and pj brown), but I think they were better than the 94 and 99 teams that advanced to the finals.

  4. jon abbey

    “Y! Sports has learned NYK has now offered Gallo, Felton, Chandler, Curry and 1st rd to DEN for Melo, Billups & fillers”

  5. latke

    jon abbey: “Y! Sports has learned NYK has now offered Gallo, Felton, Chandler, Curry and 1st rd to DEN for Melo, Billups & fillers”  

    ::SIGH:: Please let it be another BS story. I would only do that trade if it included Nene. Heck, I’d even throw in Mozgov AND take back Harrington. Why? Because that actually makes us close to being a contender. It certainly makes us better than Denver right now.

  6. Frank

    I guess who the filler is is sort of important. Has Ty Lawson done enough not to be called “filler”? I’d feel good about the trade if we were getting Lawson. Not so much if “filler” is Shelden Williams or Anthony Carter.

    Even so- just thinking about letting Gallo go makes me sad. I think we had all invested a lot in him last year as the lone young bright spot that would be part of the team’s resurgence going forward.

    Hahn’s sources confirmed the yahoo report so probably true. Blah.

  7. Frank

    No way – gallo and Chandler are known quantities- worth way more that mid-late first round picks regardless of them being closer to FA. And Favors is decidedly unimpressive to me.

  8. ess-dog

    If we can somehow keep AR after that trade, that would be a bright spot. We need to keep assets for a CP3/Deron deal. If he goes to Minny for a low 1st I’ll be very disappointed.

  9. latke

    Harris is a known entity too though…

    ess-dog, I hope we keep AR, but he’s of no value unless the trade forces MDA to play him.

    Mozgov, Amare, Anthony, Fields, Billups

    Douglas, Williams, Walker

    I mean, I guess I can always just watch the Nuggets if I ever want to find out what could have been if the knicks kept it together.

  10. TheRant

    Oh my f***ing lord please tell me they didn’t hire Kevin Harlan to call the Rookie game.

    I’m sorry, Landry. I wanted to watch. Really, I’m sorry. That voice is like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard.

  11. Frank

    Anyone get the feeling that Dolan is running this? I mean, there were articles sying that Donnie was stating in new York over the weekend. What GM isn’t there in person for a trade of this magnitude? That might explain why we seem to have forgotten that WE have all the leverage here.

  12. Brian Cronin

    Oh well, it’s a dumb trade, but I guess at least it’s not Gallo and Fields, right?

    Man, Gallo, Chandler, AR and Felton for the right to pay Melo $21 million? Very silly (especially since you could see Felton in a deal for a 1, but not so much Billups).

  13. New Guy

    Frank: Anyone get the feeling that Dolan is running this?

    Definitely.

    Among melo, Denver, and the knicks, we were the the one party with the least to lose. But at the 11th hour it appears we’re the ones caving. Melo gets his extension, Denver gets nearly all our assets, and we get a trade right out of the Isiah era. (well, not that bad!)

  14. ess-dog

    TD will have to step up as 6th man. Bummer. Our bench will be paper thin. If this is the trade, Barron doesn’t make that much sense. Probably better to dig around for a scoring 6th man on the cheap. Maybe Azu will step up? Even if we get Ant. Carter, I’d rather give Rautins a shot at pg minutes. I hope Moz and Fields are ready for big minutes.

  15. BigBlueAL

    Wouldnt getting Billups make this trade alot better for the Knicks though?? Even at his current age Billups is a big upgrade over Felton and has a team option for next season only left so he basically has the same contract as Felton in terms of years.

    Knicks would have same starting lineup but just Melo and Billups for Felton and Gallo. Sure no Chandler off the bench but still will have the same 4 who come off the bench when Chandler starts (TD/Turiaf/Silent E/Walker). Plus maybe some of the filler could help the bench a bit.

    Im not thrilled with this trade if it happens but I dont think its that bad at all. Of course Melo’s contract is going to be a pain in the neck but going forward next season assuming they keep Billups the Knicks could be pretty scary with a couple of minor additions during the off-season to sure up the bench.

  16. BigBlueAL

    ess-dog: TD will have to step up as 6th man.Bummer.Our bench will be paper thin.If this is the trade, Barron doesn’t make that much sense.Probably better to dig around for a scoring 6th man on the cheap.Maybe Azu will step up?Even if we get Ant. Carter, I’d rather give Rautins a shot at pg minutes.I hope Moz and Fields are ready for big minutes.  

    Fields averages close to 33 minutes per game right now. If anything a couple of more minutes a game for him will be a plus.

  17. New Guy

    This is the complete opposite of the Gasol/Garnett trades. Like if minnesota had gotten Boston to throw in Rondo and Perkins.

    I’m bummed.

  18. DS

    @18 – Ha, Brian on Wed. I posted: “I think Felton would be an important piece in any CP3 deal and I think trading him for Billups as part of a ‘Melo deal could be detrimental to that. If the new Hornets owners are resigned to losing Paul, a package involving Felton (and Gallo or Fields if it’s the only way to get a deal done) could be enticing. A 35 year-old Billups, whose contract is expiring, not so much.”

    I hate the proposed move!!

    I think Denver — Felton, Affalo, Gallo, Kenyon Martin, Nene, Wilson Chandler, J.R. Smith Birdman, Al Harrington, Ty Lawson and 2 first rounders — wins that deal which should NEVER happen when a star player is essentially demanding to be dealt.

    The Nuggets should be forced to take 75 cents on the dollar, not get a buck fifty because you are afraid of someone else getting him.

    @3 – Reed, Frazier, and Bradley – final answer.

  19. Frank O.

    I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo. I don’t want to lose Gallo.

    Shit.

  20. Frank O.

    Azu is not going to help this year, really.

    I love not losing Fields. I am bummed they are giving up so much.
    Apparently there will have to be other players involved to make the numbers add up. Maybe the Knicks get another man back

  21. Z

    BigBlueAL: Wouldnt getting Billups make this trade alot better for the Knicks Billups is a big upgrade over Felton and has a team option for next season only left so he basically has the same contract as Felton in terms of years.   

    Billups has a $3 million buyout that needs to be exercised within 6 days after the season ends, otherwise his 2011-2012 salary kicks in. If he’s retained next season he would be a $14 million expiring contract, which Would give us about $22 million in expiring/non-guaranteed contracts to play with at next year’s deadline.

    (Maybe Phoenix would trade Billups for Nash straight up… Could save Sarver a lot of dough and bring in a really good PG at the same time to ease gracefully out of the Nash era…)

  22. BigBlueAL

    Im just saying, Billups TS% for his career is 58% and thats because of his bad first few years. I mean look at his TS% his last 7 years, pretty incredible not to mention this season its at almost 64%.

    Im not sure if he still has it in him to play as uptempo as D’Antoni would like but Jesus Christ him and Fields as a backcourt offensively is pretty damn good to say the least.

  23. BigBlueAL

    Again I agree with everyone here about the Knicks giving up too much because they shouldnt have to but to me going from Felton to Billups is a pretty significant upgrade that shouldnt be overlooked so easily. In reality Im not sure the Knicks are really giving up too much considering they are getting both Melo and Billups.

  24. Caleb

    Billups is still a terrific offensive player but the defense will take a hit. All in all the Knicks will be better this year, but not good enough to win a 1st-round series. Next year they’ll hang in there – maybe a little better. But long-term this is definitely a step back, unless they somehow flip Melo for a better player, a year from now. Fat chance.

    If they somehow get Afflalo or even Lawson, that would look a lot better.

    On the other hand, I wouldn’t bet everything on this story being accurate – maybe more likely than 50-50, but it doesn’t sound like a sure thing.

  25. flossy

    I’m fine with Billups for Felton but it’s going to make the play of Toney Douglas and/or the immediate acquisition of a real back-up PG very, very important. Chauncey Billups cannot be playing 40 minutes of breakneck ball every night. Or 40 minutes of anything, honestly.

    On the plus side, as someone who learned how to play PG after starting out as more of an undersize natural 2, he could be the perfect mentor for Toney.

  26. totti

    It seems my career as knicks fan would come to end.
    I hope this can eventually be a positive thing for gallo nba career, no many shots would have been left for him with melo’s coming.

    I’m pretty sure that once the joy of every knicks fan to have acquired melo will fade, an hidden sense of doubt will get all your minds and the spectre of Isiah will disturb your sleep once again.

  27. flossy

    Honestly, the PG in an offense built around a two-man game with Amar’e and Melo is going to do a lot of standing around shooting wide open 3s, no? Would everyone rather that be (former Finals MVP) Chauncey Billups, currently shooting 44% from downtown?

  28. Caleb

    BigBlueAL: Again I agree with everyone here about the Knicks giving up too much because they shouldnt have to but to me going from Felton to Billups is a pretty significant upgrade that shouldnt be overlooked so easily.In reality Im not sure the Knicks are really giving up too much considering they are getting both Melo and Billups.  

    I’m pretty sure the Knicks will improve in the short-term – the problem is, it won’t be enough to matter, and in three years Billups will be an 8th man while Chandler is starting for Denver and Randolph is in the All-Star game.

  29. Caleb

    The only other thing that could make this look better is if the CBA includes a franchise tag – if they can’t sign a great player in 2012 or 2013, it looks better that you signed the best available in 2011…

    …but a franchise tag would be a huge mistake for the league, IMO.

  30. bobneptune

    totti: It seems my career as knicks fan would come to end.
    I hope this can eventually be a positive thing for gallo nba career, no many shots would have been left for him with melo’s coming.
    I’m pretty sure that once the joy of every knicks fan to have acquired melo will fade, an hidden sense of doubt will get all your minds and the spectre of Isiah will disturb your sleep once again.  

    “…and the spectre of Isiah will disturb your sleep once again.”

    reads just like a steven king novel, you wordsmith!

  31. flossy

    Caleb:
    I’m pretty sure the Knicks will improve in the short-term – the problem is, it won’t be enough to matter, and in three years Billups will be an 8th man while Chandler is starting for Denver and Randolph is in the All-Star game.  

    I imagine the idea is that what Billups is doing in 3 years is irrelevant because his contract would allow us to (maybe? Depending on the new CBA and luck) sign Chris Paul or Deron to replace him. At the very least, his contract wouldn’t *prevent* it. Realistically that’s probably our only–or at least best–shot to ever get over the hump, so the fact that this move would improve us in the short term and not preclude an attempt to really swing for the fences in 2012 is pretty significant.

  32. Caleb

    @39 signing Anthony to an extension wipes out the chance of signing Wiliams or Paul.

    The other route to getting them is trading a bunch of young prospects, but we won’t have any left.

    Adding Billups for Felton is probably good, all things considered, but in the big picture it’s irrelevant.

  33. gregory arkadin

    I don’t like the idea of replacing Felton with Billups. Yes, he’s a much better player, but again, the longevity. Billups is fine for the short term, but who thinks the Knicks are going to be a contender in the next two seasons anyway? As his stamina decreases, at some point he’s going to be better as a backup guard.
    Don’t let it be like this! Wait it out, Knicks.

    Also, Fields was great to watch in the Rookie Challange–looked like he was having a great time.

  34. John Kenney

    We’d be able to sign paul, i think… i don’t believe the claims that the salary cap will nosedive by as much as some people claim. but the issue is since amare and melo both are making more than lebron/wade etc we wouldn’t have the cash to spend on miller/haslem types.

  35. BigBlueAL

    gregory arkadin: I don’t like the idea of replacing Felton with Billups. Yes, he’s a much better player, but again, the longevity. Billups is fine for the short term, but who thinks the Knicks are going to be a contender in the next two seasons anyway? As his stamina decreases, at some point he’s going to be better as a backup guard.
    Don’t let it be like this! Wait it out, Knicks.Also, Fields was great to watch in the Rookie Challange–looked like he was having a great time.  

    Felton is only here for the short term too. So since both are here for the short term Billups >>>>>>> Felton.

  36. Caleb

    Amare and Carmelo combined will make almost as much as LeBron, Wade and Bosh.

    Summer of 2012, we’ll have $40 million tied up in just those two.

    I suppose if we give away Fields, Mozgov, Douglas and this year’s pick, to completely strip the roster, we might sign a big-ticket FA… but unless it’s Dwight Howard we’d be left with a supporting cast that’s actually worse, by a longshot, than Haslem/Miller/Chalmers/Anthony…

    I guess Howard/Anthony/Stoudemire and a bunch of playground guys would be an interesting experiment.

  37. latke

    Billups’ three point shot will help a lot with the pick and roll. He is also a guy who knows about the playoffs and led probably the toughest team in recent NBA history (yes, tougher than the Celtics) to a championship. I think it makes the Knicks a lot better. I just don’t think it makes us good enough, and without the cap space to sign a max player next year, and without the young assets to trade for one, this deal would pretty much rule out a Knicks championship in the Stoudemire era. The only way this COULD work out with us is if Carmelo works his deal for a bit less than the max and they structure the contract so its at its lowest in 2012. Then we could have the $s to sign paul or williams (or Howard) outright.

    Saying that honestly pains me, because I hate James Dolan so much, and if he’s behind this deal, and it actually works out for NY, you know he’s going to get props.

  38. BigBlueAL

    The problem I see/fear is if Dolan really wants Melo and the Knicks dont get him does he blame Walsh??

    If Dolan is on board with Walsh and has no problem passing on Melo then great. But I have a feeling the media backlash of the Knicks “losing” Melo to the Nets plus Dolan’s feelings about it could be disastrous because it could lead to Dolan letting Walsh go and you know who possibly taking over again.

    Dolan is the wild card in this whole thing and since he never talks to the media nobody really knows what his true feelings are about all this except for we know for a fact he wants Isiah part of the organization still unfortunately.

  39. Z

    Caleb:
    Adding Billups for Felton is probably good, all things considered, but in the big picture it’s irrelevant.  

    Well…

    Hypothetically, next February, a trade of Felton, Turiaf, Mozgov, and Fields for Paul and Okafor doesn’t work salary wise…

    But a trade of Billups, Turiaf, Mozgov, and Fields does.

  40. latke

    Caleb: I guess Howard/Anthony/Stoudemire and a bunch of playground guys would be an interesting experiment.  

    That would be not be good. I have a theory that if Duhon was still the Knicks’ point guard, Amare would look very human this year. Amare is reliant on having a good small to run the pick and roll with. He is a bad ISO player, a mediocre passer, and a below average defender. He compensates by being a tremendous PnR big, but it takes two to PnR. I suppose he could just run PnR with Melo, but I have a hard time seeing ‘Melo delivering the kind of passes necessary for Amare to finish.

  41. art vandelay

    Maybe Denver and NJ will save us from ourselves this time kinda like Atlanta and Joe Johnson did last summer!!!

  42. latke

    A pretty optimistic if vague report regarding a meeting about the new CBA, a meeting that Carmelo attended: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2011/news/story?id=6137556

    Perhaps this will bolster ‘Melo’s resolve that he won’t lose too many dollars if he waits until free agency to leave.

    Hunter said, “maybe going forward they may be a lot more open to some kind of compromise.”

    “We’re committed to it, and we made sure that was understood,” Fisher said. “We are going to continue to negotiate in good faith, more than good faith.”

  43. Caleb

    @47 that’s not true – Felton and $7 million in extra cap space (or $3 million in space and $4 million in one-year contracts, or whatever) is the same trade material as Billups @$14 million.

  44. Brian Cronin

    Maybe Denver and NJ will save us from ourselves this time kinda like Atlanta and Joe Johnson did last summer!!!

    If only…

    Man, imagine if the “filler” is, like, Harrington.

  45. Z

    @52 Huh? Where is the $7 million in extra cap space coming from? If we get Melo we are over the cap next February. (CBA pending, of course). We’d have to match salaries, no?

  46. Doug

    I can’t find Alan Hahn’s confirmation tweet anywhere on his twitter. Meanwhile Stephen A. say it’s all of that + Mozgov.

    Am I missing something?

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